When worlds collide
#41
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ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d
Umm no Atlas I am indeed talking entire rounds of even par and better.
Umm no Atlas I am indeed talking entire rounds of even par and better.
Then you should realize how difficult it would be in contrast to dropping a brute..............thousands of slammers hang on the walls of guys with average/below average hunting skills. How many average/below average golfers do you think have ever shot a scratch round?? (HINT: 0 )
There is no blurring of the lines. While not as accomplished as some on this board I carry a 2-3 handicap, and given that handicap I'll play anyone better than me on this board!
#42
Nontypical Buck
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I think it is fairly obvious that it is easier to become profficient at shooting a bow than playing golf.
I've been playing golf a while and on a good day I break 90 (playing by the rules), whereas being
a new bowhunter, I feel pretty good about my chances on any deer out to 30 yards.
But, I have a couple points:
(1) This is an apples to oranges comparison. I think being a consistent, world-class hunter is a
better comparison to being a pro golfer. Not just being able to let one fly at a big boy that
someone lucked into. I don't think that most people can become a world-class hunter or
a world-class golfer, it is usually some special innate ability that is already there.
(2) I would think that to be an elite archer (as opposed to bowhunter) is of similar difficulty to being
a scratch golfer. Only so many people have the hand eye coordination, the nerves, the patience,
and the willingness to put in the endless amounts of practice. Only so many people can reach
the top of any sport or competition.
But I do agree, that all things being equal, it is easier to take an average person and get them out
there harvesting a deer with a bow, than to teach them to boom drives down the fairway and get
up and down around greens in regulation.
I've been playing golf a while and on a good day I break 90 (playing by the rules), whereas being
a new bowhunter, I feel pretty good about my chances on any deer out to 30 yards.
But, I have a couple points:
(1) This is an apples to oranges comparison. I think being a consistent, world-class hunter is a
better comparison to being a pro golfer. Not just being able to let one fly at a big boy that
someone lucked into. I don't think that most people can become a world-class hunter or
a world-class golfer, it is usually some special innate ability that is already there.
(2) I would think that to be an elite archer (as opposed to bowhunter) is of similar difficulty to being
a scratch golfer. Only so many people have the hand eye coordination, the nerves, the patience,
and the willingness to put in the endless amounts of practice. Only so many people can reach
the top of any sport or competition.
But I do agree, that all things being equal, it is easier to take an average person and get them out
there harvesting a deer with a bow, than to teach them to boom drives down the fairway and get
up and down around greens in regulation.
#43
ORIGINAL: LebeauHunter
(2) I would think that to be an elite archer (as opposed to bowhunter) is of similar difficulty to being
a scratch golfer. Only so many people have the hand eye coordination, the nerves, the patience,
and the willingness to put in the endless amounts of practice. Only so many people can reach
the top of any sport or competition.
(2) I would think that to be an elite archer (as opposed to bowhunter) is of similar difficulty to being
a scratch golfer. Only so many people have the hand eye coordination, the nerves, the patience,
and the willingness to put in the endless amounts of practice. Only so many people can reach
the top of any sport or competition.
Example........in our state indoor tournament last year you would have needed a 5 spot 300 with 50+ X's to have even cracked into the top 15 places. There were 6 different 59-60X games shot there and even the cubs class (under 12) turned out a 60x score..........and thats the competition just on the state level. The mid atlantic regionals posted 9 different archers that shot a 60x game, andto even make the shoot off at nationals you need to shoot 2x back to back 60x games in qualifying and then need to hold out on a shoot off with the crowd watching for 10-20 inside out X rings........
I guess my point is that both sports (target archery/golf) probably require the same commitment level to be truly successful at that elite level. Hunting however anyone that can hold a 10" group at 20 yards can happen to luck into a slammer.
#44
Dominant Buck
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From: Blossvale, New York
Well, if they can make those little bristles align to correct for my form errors... well SHAZAAMMMMMMMMMMM... I want a couple dozen to start with. Heck...even at $10 a piece they'd be worth it. LOL
#46
Boone & Crockett
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While not as accomplished as some on this board I carry a 2-3 handicap, and given that handicap I'll play anyone better than me on this board!


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The average golfer .....playing strictly by USGA rules....from the members tees.....won't break 100.
#47
NY....it's actually higher than 100. The odds of a scratch golfer shootig even par aren't as great as one would think, either. The odds of a 2-3 hcp golfer doing it go up, exponentially.
Your USGA hcp is computed on the low 10 of your last 20 scores. Figure in for course rating and slope (tournament rounds 2X) and the scratch golfer (on certain courses) need never shoot a round at par or better.
Watch the PGA TOUR commercials and believe them when they say.......
These guys are good.
Your USGA hcp is computed on the low 10 of your last 20 scores. Figure in for course rating and slope (tournament rounds 2X) and the scratch golfer (on certain courses) need never shoot a round at par or better.
Watch the PGA TOUR commercials and believe them when they say.......
These guys are good.

#48
ORIGINAL: NY Bowhunter
Sure you'll "play" anyone on this board. Heck I'll "play"Tiger Woods. Doesn't mean either of uswould have a chance

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Sure you'll "play" anyone on this board. Heck I'll "play"Tiger Woods. Doesn't mean either of uswould have a chance


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#49
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
NY....it's actually higher than 100. The odds of a scratch golfer shootig even par aren't as great as one would think, either. The odds of a 2-3 hcp golfer doing it go up, exponentially.
Your USGA hcp is computed on the low 10 of your last 20 scores. Figure in for course rating and slope (tournament rounds 2X) and the scratch golfer (on certain courses) need never shoot a round at par or better.
Watch the PGA TOUR commercials and believe them when they say.......
These guys are good.
NY....it's actually higher than 100. The odds of a scratch golfer shootig even par aren't as great as one would think, either. The odds of a 2-3 hcp golfer doing it go up, exponentially.

Your USGA hcp is computed on the low 10 of your last 20 scores. Figure in for course rating and slope (tournament rounds 2X) and the scratch golfer (on certain courses) need never shoot a round at par or better.
Watch the PGA TOUR commercials and believe them when they say.......
These guys are good.

) I'm sure your right.Hey perhaps next spring we have a friendly game, you bring your inflated ego, and I'll bring my handicap card and we'll play for fun..oh wait you like to wager a little right?

#50
GR8:
Whoa! What did I say that you don't agree with? I didn't mean to make anyone upset. I think everything I said is factually correct.
I don't doubt you can shoot a round at par....even a few in a string. What my post said was.....if the CR and slope are higher on a particular course....then everything I said is correct. A lower CR and slope.....and the scratch golfer would have to shoot par rounds to achieve scratch status.
Nothing egotistical about that. I don't get it. It's a formula.
Whoa! What did I say that you don't agree with? I didn't mean to make anyone upset. I think everything I said is factually correct.
I don't doubt you can shoot a round at par....even a few in a string. What my post said was.....if the CR and slope are higher on a particular course....then everything I said is correct. A lower CR and slope.....and the scratch golfer would have to shoot par rounds to achieve scratch status.
Nothing egotistical about that. I don't get it. It's a formula.


