Who has the better chance of achieving their goal here:

Shooting par vs. Shooting 300-60x? [8D]

Rick Point taken..But a "perfect" round of golf would be in the 18 under par range!

GR8:

The average golfer .....playing strictly by USGA rules....from the members tees.....won't break 100.

I can show a guy how to shoot a bow in one afternoon.....send him into the woods....and he's got JUST as good a chance of a slammer walking by him as the next guy. That same guy CAN NOT shoot par. It isn't possible.

Look at it this way, Rick.....

I think you can take a guy off the street and have him shooting 290's a LOT quicker than you can have him shooting par on a golf course.

As far as skill levels to be "extremely proficient" (because 300-60x is far from 'extremely proficient'....it's perfect......and par is not the highest level a golfer can hope to achieve, either.....far from it)....the archer will become extremely proficient a LOT faster than the golfer. Is shooting a bow "easy"? Let's just say I think a man could buy one on a saturday......and be shooting VERY consistent 10 rings by the next Saturday.....which is a lot faster than that same guy could become proficient enough to play 18 holes at his local CC without pissing the world off behind him.

60x is not perfect though, would get you into the shoot off at nationals but there they are counting inside outs there. Perfect (I don't personally know anyone that has done this) is 60x's inside out........i.e. no arrows touching the X line.

I still understand your point though and my question was really a question because I know nothing about golf by choice..........I have too many expensive and time consuming hobbies as it is.....

Good to see you back Atlas!

Tom

Matt:

I mean no disrespect to archery or archers when I say that. It's an opinion formed from my years as a golf professional....and a somewhat new archer (Five local 3D tournaments). I respect what the elite in both sports can do.

I think the point being made is anyone can drop a slammer on any given day............thousands hang on the walls of guys/gals who are lucky they know which end of the arrow is the "pointy" one. No one..........absolutely no one on earth can fall into a round of even par.......it just can't happen. Can anyone shoot par on any given hole??.......of course.......and thousands of hackers around the world have a hole-in-one to their credit............those are isolated moments of good fortune.



I think the lines are getting blurred..............you are talking about a single hole and others are talking about a full round.

Anyone can fall into a slammer or a hole-in-one............the chance of a blind squirrel finding a nut on 18 straight holes is less then zero..........even an average (or below) hunter can accumulate a house full of monsters given the right location.

I agree with the golfers here... Playing scratch golf requires literally thousands of hours on the course, and even then, some people can't even sniff par.

I can teach a guy to shoot a bow in 2 hours, and have him out-shooting guys who have been hunting for 10-20 years. Shooting a bow isn't rocket science, just point-and-click. And if you're lucky enough to be hunting in an area that's thick with 3.5-4.5 year old bucks, you're just as likely to slam one as the "expert" if you put the time in.

Umm no Atlas I am indeed talking entire rounds of even par and better.

There is no blurring of the lines. While not as accomplished as some on this board I carry a 2-3 handicap, and given that handicap I'll play anyone better than me on this board!