davidmil

Don't get me wrong folks. I would be in favor of a world wide minimum on deer. Heck, I've even gone as far as to propose NO BUCKS for two or three years. Especially in places like Maryland where the ratio in some parts is probably 20 to 1. Make it a law is the way to go, not trying to shame someone into feeling guilty about shooting a legal deer.

nodog

"I don't think it is. I think that some people just need to remember that first, what's big around one area might be small in another and second, not everyone can aford to go on hunts out of theri area where they can get big bucks."

Your right about that.

Bowhunter4life

I believe if i bash and i should be kicked out than how many other people should be kicked out, he bashed my views on QDM, after i said QDM is about a healthier herd he said somthin like well if you want a healty herd just use a high fence. That to me is a dumb comment. Why is what i said considered bashing when he did the same to me?

Mike from Texas

I absolutely believe it is and I also believe that it is worse here in Texas than just about any other state. I'm happy to kill any legal deer, if it happens to have big antlers, then that's just a bonus. Look around folks, that's all people talk about is the obsession to shoot a big deer. Hell, we even have contests to see who shoots the biggest one.

rybohunter

I know a big deal is always made about this topic, but it seems like above all else it's human nature. People since the beginning of time, wanted the biggest, fastest, best of anything.
Body builders want the biggest muscles, sometimes they resort to steroids. Atheletes want to be the strongest, fastest, most skilled etc. People don't want 1 million dollars in the bank they want 100 million. Race car drivers want the fastest car. People want the biggest SUV. Fishermen want to catch the biggest fish. Shooters want the biggest super ultra magnum when a 30-06 will do. Farmers want to be able to grow the most crops in the smallest area. This is what people do in ALL aspects of life.

Just a little perspective I thought about.

buzz_boy35

I posted a picture of my 4 pt last year and got the same good response from members on the board (congrats) as I got when I posted a picture of a 8pt that I mounted 2 years ago. I think most people would like to shoot that Pope & Young when in reality most of us don't have the perfect idea hunting land and make use of what we got. I get pumped if I shoot a doe are a buck.Man talking about hunting now makes me hungry for back straps.

Kyle Colburn

Really, Any buck that I have taken and will ever take is a trophy. It may not be a "shooter" buck or a "trophy" buck to anybody else but it is to me. I was the one out in the field with my bow or gun and it is the memory of the hunt that makes that buck or even a doe a trophy. Everybody has to just stop worrying about trying to get the biggest buck and go back to what made us all start hunting- the thrill of the hunt.Lots of peoplethese days seem to get ticked off if they aren't seeing huge bucks and aren't shooting trophy bucks. When you are in the woods just think of the first time you shot a deer and remember the feeling that you got. That is what hunting is really about, not just shooting monster bucks and making records.

Cosmowvu

I can understand where you guys are coming from when you believe that big buck hunting is killing the sport but I live in WVA and as long as you are willing to pay nine dollars for a tag you can basically kill as many bucks as you want. That is seriously hindering our opportunity to harvest a nice deer. I also believe that any deer with a bow is a trophy but it would be nice to know that there are still some nice ones out there sometimes and arround here those days are dissapearing fast.

Kyle Colburn

I agree with you Cosmovu, thats one of the reasons I like the 1 buck per hunter for bow and 1 buck per hunter for gun season here in WI.

stealthycatapithicus

Bowhunter4life

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Davidmil, your an idiot. Thats the dumbest comment i have ever heard. So you dont care about your heard health thats fine with me i understand, but dont bash my ideas just because your lazy. It takes work and i will put the work into it. Your just like alot of the neighbors around here. "I shoot the little bucks cause i dont ever see a trophy book buck", i wonder why. Maybe because your shooting the bucks that could become 130 inch bucks. Its common sense. As for the high fence, i like to hunt fair chase, and hunt deer that are harder to kill. I am not one to hunt in a high fence area just so i can kill a book deer. That might be your thing but not mine. Happy Hunting

First off, davidmil mis correct, anyone can raise deer like livestock, its not rocket science.

What happens is that these livestock deer are passed off as wild deer - and its intentional becuase no one is really proud of a farmed deer.

Therein lies the problem. And don't pretend you're doing all this for the "health of the herd" you most certainly are not. You are doing it all so you can shoot bigger bucks.

GregH

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My answer to this question is no, it does not corrupt hunting. People trying to shoot big bucks by illegal and unethical means does corrupt it

I agree with a lot of what you said. I'm sure you agree with me that "trophy buck" is relative to the weapon you choose, the are you hunt etc etc. Its a term that can be used widley - trophy.

Is the 190" buck I killed on a 20 acre "preserve" the same trophy as that 160" buck you chased on WI public land for 3 years ?

I don't think so - I don't think ANYONE would think so.

Bowhunter4life

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But dont tell me my opinion is wrong and to go build a high fence

You're not wrong. Everyone has a right to farm livestock, but it angus bulls, peacocks, or whitetails.

But there is a difference. And you know there is a difference or you wouldn't spend so much time doing it.

xlilcntrygrlx

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not everyone can aford to go on hunts out of theri area where they can get big bucks.

Okay, so what ? Hunt "your" area and bag the biggest buck around and be tickled pink with your trophy.

Thing is ........ many people are NOT tickled with that. They want to have bucks bigger than anyone elses - its greed, bragging rights, horn porn.

Arrowmaster

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Has bowhunting been corrupted, Naw I dont think it has.

Define "corrupted" - I think by the definition it has been.

Want me to prove it ?

I shot a 210 typical in KS last fall that will threaten the world record. If I posted a picture of this buck, and how I killed it, no one would believe me, the KDFW would confiscate it pending an investigation and my name and my family would be drug through the mud in my attempts to prove it 100% legal and just.

If it had been a 140" buck no one would care.


Why would the above be true if hunting has come so far and to such a point that ANY really big buck is doubted from the moment its posted ?

Because bowhunting and hunting in general HAS been corrupted, hasn't it ?