There will be quite a few of us looking forward to shed's results. I'm sure no one will slam shed for any results he comes up with as they will be true field tested results.

As opposed to what?

Ya don't have to pay retail! I have 2 suits that cost just over a hundred bucks for all. Use and love the scentlok I have. Took again this year my share of deer (8) in high and very very low density area's. Area's, where before wearing the scentlok I was routinely busted. It has been a joy to take deer that thought they had me pegged (a true test). And this is the time of year when the deals can be had. If you hunt in high density area's then there's really no need, body washes and scent sprays will work fine because deer will be coming from every where and your chances are much better, no big deal and this is why some feel theconfidence to put down the product, they don't need it. If on the other hand you need an edge, they are worth the investment.

As far as testing them be sure to include all the variables. Just driving to an area impacts it. Many studies do not include the total picture. Move a twig and you've left a trail even if you didn't touch it with your hand. Can you walk through your house in the dark and know where things are supposed to be. Animals know their home which is why they will often return to it after being spooked. Read some stories of trackers and you'll see just how little there needs to be to know when somethings different. Reading "Howard Hills Hunting the Hard Way" right now. It's a great read.

Can you explain how the suit was what made the difference.

Got busted by the same deer 3 years in a row. Wore the suit and killed it. Wore the suit this year and killed the one that was with it the year before. We have few deer in this area, hunting pressure is high, the land I killed them on is small and very difficult to get into unnoticed, and as far as I can tell these were the same animals. The one I killed this year was with 2 others (won a contest with it). They never new I was there even after getting down and whistling to get them to leave, One came directly at me, down wind, looking for what was there. Literally knew something was there and could not detect me. Before the suit it was very tough to get close enough to them. I put the suit to the test this year to see if it would still work and it did. Will try again next year. Unless deer begin to talk it's the best proof I have and when it seems to not be a factor I'll stop using it, maybe. Without the scent control they are still a quality garment and worth what I paid. Very wind resistant and I believe that is part of the scent control. If wind can't get in stink can't get out. Others I hunt with feel the same way and they killed more than me.They also hunt where the deer are plentiful.

So again...........could you please explain how the suit is what made the difference?? I have a "lucky" shirt that I have killed some of my best deer in.........I wear it out of superstition and have no evidence at all that it helps me.........but I feel good when I know it is under my camo. I was looking for an explanation of how the suit was what allowed you to kill the deer and without it all would have been lost.




What a VERY interesting statement........you say you feel as though the suit is wind resistent??.......in other words it is not very permeable to air currents. Do you know how carbon works? It works as a filter.....a filter that must have whatever is being filtered forced through and over it to pull the undesired particles from that substance.......a clear example would be if you had a room full of guys smoking cigars and ripping chili farts and you wanted to clear the air of the smoke and odors.......if you take a carbon filter and set it on the table it will do nothing........take that filter and place it in the forced air ducts circulating the rooms air and it will then work as a filter because the air is being forced through the material........just like a coffee makers filter doesn't do any good unless the water from the grounds is forced through it.

If wind can't get in your suit then it can't get out either.......at least not through the suit. It will still escape out the neck and sleeves and waist where resistence is minimal.......but that really defeats the purpose.

Next time you work up a sweet case of B.O.........put on whatever jacket you want (leather, carhart, nylon sports team jacket, ski jacket...whatever) Then lean over and try to smell your pits through the jacket..........now tuck your chin and put your nose near the neck opening and fluff the jacket a little bit and smell how much stink comes wafting up out that neck opening.


I am still interested in your explanation if you would like to elaborate.

I do not know how effective scent blocking garments or scent eliminating sprays are. I have never spent a penny on them. Besides washing my hunting clothes in plain water and hanging them outdoors to dry, the only scent eliminating thing I use is the wind. I only hunt a stand if the wind is in my favor. If the wind is wrong for the stand, I won't hunt it, its that simple. I don't believe that there is a product made that can fool a deers nose if he's down wind from you.

No. I think I was clear the first and second time. Maybe you could ask the deer, but there not talking. Dead deer tell no tales.

Thanks for the science lesson. A quick read of the instructions that come with the suit states that it should fit properly around the openings. Wonder why? Have you ever read the instructions that come with the clothes? They kind of read like some other things I've read, they tell you what to do but don't say why. I've taken the next step in my own mind and answered the why's. I believe one of the reason they don't say why is because they have no desire to tell competitors their secrets and they may not even be all that scientific. Why is it they don't recommend washing them often? What happens to clothes that are washed? They don't say why. They say to keep them as clean as possible. Only wear them in the woods. Wonder why? I've learned things about clothes and scent control just from keeping an open mind. I gave them a shot and I like them. Simple as that. Illumination for just over a hundred bucks in the school of life. Pretty cheap if you ask me and I get the clothes along with the class. I just spent more than that on little odds and ends at Cabela's yesterday getting ready for my new strings from giblet. Looking forward to them!

I must have missed it then.......all I saw was you said you wore the suit and killed a deer......no different then my lucky shirt story. I was hoping you could explain your opinion.



Meaning what??........an airtight seal?


Yes.


What secrets are those?? Every scientist in the world already knows about carbon and every competitor can just go buy a suit off the shelf if they want to check out the design. I don't know what you are implying.



No......I don't wonder why.....It's because detergents will be adsorbed by the carbon and decrease it's adsorptive abilities or render it completely useless.



Please explain what you have learned from keeping an open mind.

I've learned that as long as people like you continue to "open peoples eyes" I'll be able to find them on shelves at a greatly reduced price.

Carry on. Daddy needs to outfit two kids this coming season.