Good! Wanted to make sure everybody is doin' it right! Thanks!

Haven't had a problem yet using scent free soaps, detergents, and fresh earth spray. I keep some local foliage in my bag as well. Scent is the last thing I worry about. I have killed deer with steam coming from my coffee cup, standing right where I just took a wizz 2 minutes earlier. I think guys are getting a little too bent over scent these days......mostly due to marketing of big companies that want your money so they convince you that you need something you don't. You need $500 worth of scent control like you need a 300 WSSM..........everything today is OVERKILL. You would think we were going out to slay a dragon with all the gear we tote along these days.


Some people would say there is nothing wrong with that method today. No money to be made with baking soda though



Just one of the many issues that exist with carbon suits.


I don't think they are the "lazy" man's way...........although I am sure many guys falsely believe they are "scent free" just because they put on the suit like it is magic or something........probably the same guys who don't worry about shot placement because they think their Muzzy will blow through any bone they hit automatically. Again suggestive marketing is not done for no reason. There are a certain amout of people that will believe anything.

What I think scent suits offer guys is the same thing that bottles of estrous urine offer.........HOPE. Hope that it is something beyond your control that is the reason you aren't drilling big bucks regularly. Hope that a product out there is the only thing standing between you and a yearly bill at the taxidermist. Hope that you can "buy" success in the woods. There is a reason that just about EVERY product marketed to deer hunters puts a picture of a huge buck on the tag or in the commercial.........not much different then beer commercials using hot chicks or casino's always showing people winning. Everyone knows it isn't the truth.......BUT.......what if it is???

Not even touching on the multitude of problems with the current "high end" scent parade.........I have just simply never found a need for anything other then what I mentioned at the start. I have plenty of money, much more then I truely need. If I thought I needed to spend $1,000 on scent control I would. Having said that, I will be using my usual routine again next year with no problems I am sure.

Thanks to everyone who responded to my post! My baby's going to Chapel Hill in the fall, and my older girl's in her last year of Law School, so I think I'll put off spending the extra cash for a while! In the meantime I'll keep using the scent-free detergent, soap, shampoo, etc., and wear my Excent underwear!

Now that is money WELL spent my friend.


Wise decision............with or without girls in college. Good luck this season.

I am willing to do some extensive testing while capturing it with my video camera.... I will purposely be setting up at bow rangewere I will get windedduring the hot summer months on feeding areas. I have several spots and I know exactly how the wind works from these stands.

I would like to test basically three different tactics.

1. No scent control

2. Using the soaps/shower, spray and clean hunting clothes stored seperate (I will supply all the materials plus the video camera)

3. All of #2 plus the use of carbon and silver fiber clothing... (I have both)

It would be interesting to see how this all played out. I have a couple areas that deer feed regularly and the age structure and buck to doe ratio would be balanced enough for us to get reactions from young critters, does ..older does...and older bucks...

Anyone interested in helping me write up the constants and variables and frequency ......shoot me a pm and we will get this experiment planned out, and can share with our members..

Troy

I hate to say it Troy..........but you would be wasting your time. The variables are unlimited and thus any perceived information obtained will have absolutely no viability to be applied elsewhere. All you will be doing is documenting one big "One time when I was in the woods" story. If these kinds of case-based "experiments" held any value whatsoever you would see every company out there doing them and showing the results. Much the same as the experiments that showed favorable responses to new car scent in scrapes and hawaian shirts as good camo would never lead anyone to believe those were the best ways to hunt deer..........all this will do is show one of the zillion responses you might run into in the dynamic world of a whitetail........then tomorrow you may see the exact opposite. If there was a sure fire, black and white, yes and no answer to deer hunting we would know it by now. For every story you hear there are 10 more that tell the opposite tale. You could spend 80 hours a week peparing for this and a few months doing it and recording it and still be left with nothing more then subjective data.

Neat idea though.

Atlas, I agree the variables are too vast to get any absolutes. On the other hand I feel that field testing tactics in regards to human odor on free ranging public land whitetails can if nothing else show me exactly how the deer I hunt will react to odor or lack their of it. Deer biology is deer biology regardless of the region. We all know that pressured/hunted deer as they gain age and experience learn to associate different stimuli with danger including predator scent. Scent is all protein based and therefore deer can discern whether or not the protein scent molecules are fresh or not based on its state/breakdown. I am most interested in the reactions of deer downwind of me..all ages of deer compared to how much human odor I present to them or the lack there of it. Heck if every deer (all ages) allows me to sit in a stand with absolutely no regards to human odor then I will simply hunt in street clothes.

Again, I agree with you that this would be subjective and all the variables can notbe accounted for, all I can do is document everything, collect the data, over say a 3 month period of say 30 visits...tests.. and see what the data shows in regards to deerbehavior while beingdownwind involving different scent minimization tactics... can this be useful, I think so, especially in my hunting strategy. For other hunters I think so. I believe deer biology is consistent enough, especially for those like me that hunt public lands and pressured deer to get some viable information out of it. If nothing else I will know even more about the deer I am targeting.

I MAKE IT THE SAME WAY AND I USE SCENT KILLER

I guess you might gain something from it.........I don't see how it could show you "exactly" as you can never say for sure what the reaction you witnessed was due to.



Again........with no way of knowing how much of your scent actually makes it to the deer's nose I don't really see how this helps........not to mention that about 100 other things are involved in his reaction to that scent and 100 deer will probably react 100 different ways in the same spot, because the wind will NEVER be the same and all the other variables are constantly changing as well.



I would laugh my butt off if I see you posting your usual bruiser harvest next year in jeans and a cut off T-shirt



If it will help you then by all means do it.............as far as posting it here I think it will just be a huge waste of time and result in nothing more then people arguing the same old points we see in all these threads.........and don't forget that carbon suits have been a touchy subject around here lately..........god forbid you have anything less then flattering to say about your "test"........You will find yourself on the receiving end of the hammer for a change []


I also don't know how "pressured" your public lands could be if you have spots where you are so confident of seeing deer that you are going to use them as guinea pigs.

Still a neat idea though.

Shed33 I'll be looking forward to your results so I can compare with my own unscientific study. Keep us posted.