"this is my only chance to get a turkey and we'll be having dove hunters hunting..."

"...who in their right mind would hunt dove when they can bow hunt,"

"it'll screw bow hunting up,"

"who's to stop someone from bringing a slug with em and popping a buck..."

Sorry but this all soundeda little like whining to me. Another example of division amongst the hunting community. I just found it very interesting that because they were not bow hunting they are messing up YOUR hunt and likely to poach deer with slugs etc. If you are truely "passionate about ALL hunting,"... you wouldn't make posts that make non-bowhunters out to be unsafe intruders. It hurts us all.

During our Bow season Fall Turkey and small game are open as is duck and goose no problems.

In NY you don't ever have to wear orange if you don't want to.

Come hunt PA..[&:], Let's see while bowhunting is in....dove, squirrel, rifle doe, turkey, all small game and most upland birds, geese all overlap archery season at some time or another......and ya think some dove hunters are a bother...

I see your point but in her defense she's not trying to hurtus ordivide us...she loves hunting and is very supportive when it comes to hunting and our rights.If there's a season for it she's out there huntin'.She'snot pissed that they'll be out there huntin' with guns instead ofbows.Her main concern is for the safety ofthe bowhunters whichI can totally understand. You'd have to know the group of hunters outwhere we hunt to fully understand.For the most part we're a great bunch of hunters but there's several out there who have no ethics or morals and those are the ones who she is worried about.

In RI, small game (pheasant included) opens up about 2 weeks into archery season. I've only gotten into bowhunting in this state the past few seasons. Every time I find a good looking piece of public land to hunt, after opening day of small game, its all over. I had hoped that maybe the activity might push deer, and that it does. I had a deer blow by me so fast a couple years ago I couldn't even raise my bow let alone get a shot. Also, it is a circus. Dogs, cowbells, guns, "find the birds daisy", etc. If you count pellets raining down on you through the branches as being shot at, I've been shot attwice sitting in my tree stand. Part of my challenge now isn't just to find where the deer are, but find good deer sign where will there not be any pheasant hunters.

For the record, I am not against pheasant hunting, in fact I find it enjoyable. I would almost welcome closing the woods to archery in some sections of WMA's where they stock birds and also closing some sections to small gamers where they dont. Everybody has a right to the woods, but I think how the property is managed to be fair to all and to be SAFE for all should be taken into consideration by the DEM.

Charlie P
Now that you have a rifle season that seems more dangerous than it was doesn't it? I mean if I'm hiding (presumably well camoflauged)in a ground blind with a bow waiting for a deer to turn broadside at 15 yards the guy with the rifle at 200 yards waiting on the same deer to turn may not see me.
What are your thoughts?

for one it's a fact that deer/turkey dont like to hang out in areaswith guns going off.... and it is my ONLY chance, stating a fact not whining....
the second quote, well you got me there,i was thinking of opening morning of a 3 day hunt....the odds of getting these hunts are limited to 50 people, most would not choose to dove hunt then....there are alot of places where you can walk in and dove hunt wihtout the hassle of putting in for a permit, why go through the trouble of putting in for a permit there just to hunt dove was what i was trying to say....
thirdly......i have busted folks from that town myself on more than one occassion poaching, they are poachers, not the hunters i was referring too, there is a difference...i wouldnt put it past 30% of the population there...
like i said it'll be a COLD DAY IN HELL........ if they have the balls to walk through the swamps and sawgrass to get to where i hunt for doves, tehn so be it,but iseriously doubt it,so NOOOOOOOOOO, they wont be screwing up MY HUNT....they will likely be other hunters that have thier hunts screwed up....

i wont watch what i say, if people misunderstand what i am trying to say then so be it, do what you did and quote me and i'll explain why i said it......anyone that knows me knows hunting is EVERYTHING to me, all kinds of hunting, they KNOW i'm probably the most passionate hunter they know, i'm out there bow hunting, muzzy hunting, small game hunting, general gun hunt, i even hunt hogs with dogs and a knife, i'm passionate , believe me, and just for the record, it's not a killing thing to me either, Lord knows my freezer would have meat in it if i were....dont want you to think anymore false things.......

"why go through the trouble ofputting in for a permit therejust to hunt dove.."

Just to hunt dove? Is that less of a hunt than any other type of hunting? Are dove hunters not your equal? My state doesn't allow dove hunting but I can imagine that there are people that are just as passionate about their dove hunting as you are other types of hunting. Maybe they want a limited use area to escape some of the crowds. Maybe it is closer to home. Who cares why they want to dove hunt there. My point is simply that I get tired of listening to fellow bow hunters gripe about competition or interference like we are the chosen few that should have exclusive seasons and priority over all other types of hunting. I think too many of us use the old "safety" excuse as a veil to hide behind when whatwe really want is to have the woods to ourselves. Just trying to get you to look at it from the "other side" because we had better allget on the same side.

i see your point, guess i havent seen someone as passionate about doves as most are about deer during archery season....
i frickin' am on hunters side, i always will be, every kind of hunting...though i dont know why when some try to turn every fricking worda personsays to be something negative...in my eyes it is a safety issue, no orange required, yes it is a safety issue......
i dont think i am better than anyone because i bow hunt, it's just another way i can be out in the woods, that is why i got into it, not for bragging rights.....i think that would be the reason most bowhunters got into it....
and i dont feel dove hunters and bowhunters are equal, by the looks of it, they get 3 times the oppurtunity that bowhunters get....but like was explained, it just makes sense to take more dove than deer, so i understand now.......might notlike it, but it doesnt change the fact...
and it still doesnt change the fact the most hunters aren't wearing orange and that the deer and turkey are going to be spooked....
bowhunting doesnt spook the dove for them.....why is ok for them to spook the deer and turkey for the bowhunters? it shouldn't be......but it is..... i do see both sides.....
my husband isnt much a deer hunter, he's more into the duck and dove.....hesees a safety issue.....now if all were to wear orange, then maybe i wouldnt feel as strongly as i do, but they DON'T.........

Ditto!