I never said it looked like crap..but i can tell you that game animals such as turkey's have great vision and pick up movement as well as color very well.deer ...well ...thats a little different, they see in the blue spectrum of light and pick up movement well...just not other colors...so if one were to wear a plaid green wool hunting coat that is like an open pattern correct?

I have been keeping up with these Enigma posts and have kept my mouth shut until now, but I figure that it needs to be said...

I am not trying to down-play the camo or say that it isn't a wonderful pattern, the big thing is that the comments about Enigma camo are the same comments that were made about ASAT and Predator! The results that have been posted read exactly like what the same people said about their ASAT and Predator the past several years, and that looses alot of the credability! I know that it has been stated that the Wolfskin material is one of the best materials on the market, but that isn't what the Enigma posts have been about, the posts have been about the classic phrase "the deer looked through me", the same exact thing that has been said time and time again about Predator and ASAT! I would understand these posts if they were intended to discuss how the Wolfskin material has worked out, but I digress, it is the same old story, "the animal looked through me" "I played tricks on the animal to see if it would see me" ect..

Like I have said before, Enigma is a great looking pattern and I am sure it is one of the more effective patterns on the market, but the comments about it sound like a broken record that was playing the ASAT and Predator tune last year. If I am looking for a camo, I want something that is going to disguise me as best as possible, the material isn't as important as I can always layer with waterproof clothing under it, so my question is, how can I take it seriously that this camo is better than ASAT and Predator when the comments I hear about it are identical to the comments on ASAT and Pred?

Can you see me in this photo? Most likely you can find me, but you gotta admit, it's impressive.

I have been seen by turkeys in my tree wearing the Enigma and they knew I was there. I was moving and I believe they knew something that big should not be there. I was a little dissapointed. I saw them again on another day in the same tree and remained motionless and they went by at twenty yds.
With that being said, I believe the waythe clothing is designed puts it above the others being mentioned here. The velcro adjusters on the sleeves as well as on the back make it great for bowhunters. Keeps the material tight to the body so you do not get any interference upon drawing or releasing the bow. The bdu blouse also has hidden chest pockets, another great feature.
The pants with zipper legs and velcro straps around the bottom are awesome. Very easy to put on and off. They also have the adjusters on the waist for tightening or loosening. Cargo pockets are also available and a must for me. Great place for "stuff".
I like it and it will only get better with feedback and constructive criticism from the serious hunters like those of you on this site.

For those of you that wanted to see some Enigma test photos here they are These are just some of many I have taken.

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Buck Magnet, I'm not gonna go on the record and say that Enigma is better than ASAT or Predator. I won't make that claim as I wouldn't make that claim about them being better either. They are all exceptional open pattern camouflages. What sets Enigma apart at this point is the fabric, the product, the features. Predator has great patterns but just that patterns because not one is best for all purposes, Fall Grey is great late season but not green woods, Spring Green is great early season but not skyline in the open tree tops. Great pattern with specific applications. Enigma has fitted the bill for early season, and now with the leaves coming down, still great and proving itself daily.

Yeah it might sound like a broken record, even redundant but that's what good camo is suppose to sound like, the animals should look right through it, what else can be said about camo.....there isn't a lot of words that explain it's effectiveness. If you come up with some, let me know. What sets it apart is the fabric so that should be taken into consideration.

Fabric matters greatly. This camo is a 20 year camo not a replacment camo every year. From what I understand, Wolfskin does not fade and unless you abuse it, you'll have it for more years than you would ever have cotton camo. Believe you, me, I've beaten enough of that up..loll Chuck might be shooting himself in the foot in the long run, people buying camo now won't be up for renewal for many, many years, no return purchase unless they want multiple suites. I've talked with him about why he came out with the Wolfskin and his reply was, he wanted a quality camo in a the best fabric so hunters can have the best for the best price. I couldn't agree more.

Wolfskin is incredible, simply incredible and when you can get it with an all purpose, all season, all application camo pattern, it's a win, win, win. IMO

Rob, I may be mistaken, but I'm not sure it's so much the Wolfskin that prevents fading as it is the printing method....some kind of heat transfer, yes?

mobowhuntr, If my memory serves me right when I talked with Chuck he did say the printing process is some sort of heat transfer that is printed on both sides of the fabric unlike other fabrics that are printed on just one side. I usually wash my hunting clothes just about every other day, and the fabric and printing on my set looks just as good as the day I recieved it. So far so good.