No kidding. I'm with you on THAT one.

Today bow sales and hype proliferates and abounds. Bowhunters have been led to believe that they NEED a $400 bow, $100 sight, $100 carbon arrows, $50 broadheads, the latest camo pattern, a $100 rest, stabilizers, etc. Most of that junk a guy doesn't need too shoot a deer at 20 yards!

I shoot a nice used 1970's Bear Polar LTD bow, off the shelf with my own rest, XX75 GameGetter's w/5" LW feathers, Bear Razorheads or WASP 130 gr CamLok's and fingers. If hunting on the ground I shoot instinctively. If in a treestand I use a Keller sight.

I doubt my bow shoots faster than 250 fps but go look at the nice 8-pointer I shot in 2001 in my profile pic. My rig prob cost me less than $200 or so. At 20 yds I'm deadly. I've never exceeded this range and frankly, haven't needed to.

same here, i've never had to go past 25 yds or so. . . .i don't use scent lock. . . . i don't shave or shower a day or two before i hunt. . . .i might rinse off a little. . . .but the deer walk right under my stand and last year's 8 pointer (131 BandC) did just that and was shot at ten yds!!

the jennings bow i bought off my former boss cost me $250 and that included the rest, stablizer, ultranok, Mongoose quiver, Scott release aid, and sights. the PSE cost me $175 and the guy put all the accessories on the PSE and gave me a discount on the purchase of half a dozen arrows!!

Sweet...

I've had 'em all - Martin's, Hoyts, Brownings, PSE, Oneida's, Bear, Jennings, etc. But for my $20 my Polar LTD cost me - I can't beat it. Feels good in my hand, shoots fine, and if it breaks I buy another used bow on eBay for the same amount. Actually, I shot my 8-pointer with a 1970's Bear Whitetail bow now that I think of it. It cost about $75 back in its day at K-Mart. I got it for free when my bother-in-law gave it to me!

i've killed 4 deer with this bow (2 in 2003 and 2 in 2004) and i hate to change anything. . . but i've got tired of constantly having to adjust the forks on the rest after 20+ / - shots.....so i think i may chuck the xring and get the vibracheck stabilzer and locktite the forks on the premier rest. . . .blue locktite is what to use. . . the red locktite requires heating and a lot of work to break loose, the blue only takes a little elbow grease and some time. . . .my father in law was wanting the wb, so he'll probably get it. . . .

Then I would suggest putting a little lock-tite on the screws...or a set of $12 limbsavers on the limbs.

Or make a $5 home-made shoot-off-the-shelf rest like I do! lol!

I did notice something there. Take some advice and get rid of the Ultranock. Get a loop tied on in it's place. I'm certain that is at least part of the vibration problem. And you'll maybe gain upwards of 10 fps in the process.

I see your arrow weight, but what is the peak weight of the bow and drawlength? You should not be exceeding 60# at any drawlength over about 28".

For anyone. You show me an old Polar LTD shooting 250fps and I'll show you someone living in LaLa land. I was around when they came out, actually owned one. They had trouble amking 190fps back then---like in the 70's.

180 fps or not - they still are capable of killing deer at 15 yrds! lol!

I have shot the premier now for as long as its been out there and have only had the prongs loosen up one time. i tryed the bisket last year, and it was hell on the plastic vanes the feathers wear more forgiving. switched back before hunting season.