Where can I get Sabots for .490 Round Balls
01-20-2018, 08:05 AM
#12
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 9
Out of Stock
Midway lists the green poly patches complete with the correct .485" swaged round ball under the Hornady brand. But they are not currently available - out of stock.
Midway also lists a green poly patch with no projectile but it is for using a .44 bullet in a .50 cal and its not in stock anyway.
Maybe these poly round ball sabots really are made of "unobtainium".
Midway also lists a green poly patch with no projectile but it is for using a .44 bullet in a .50 cal and its not in stock anyway.
Maybe these poly round ball sabots really are made of "unobtainium".
01-20-2018, 08:47 AM
#13
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: My Range in Central NY
Posts: 320
TXhunter58,
In reference to your #2 statement,
"2) BH 209 is hard to ignite and you need a strong primer, but not sure it will ignite unless directly under the primer."
What inline has the powder positioned directly under the primer??
It is my understanding that all well designed breech plug will have a 5/52 flash channel of at least .5" in length then an orface of aproxamatly.03125. This orface is commonly called the vent . many have replacable vents.
I believe if western has given the Ok then they are aware of the design of the 209 adapter that will be used and the OP will be good to go.
Check Graf and sons for Harvestor green sabots for 44 boolitz. the 240Gr lead swc may be short enough to stabilize in 1x75 . Grafs may also have the RB sabots.
It is my opinion and findings that the resistence of a minimum of 35lbs to push sabot and projectile down the bore will be nessisary for good ignition of the BH209. IMHO BH209 needs a tight fitting combo to get it lit properly.
In reference to your #2 statement,
"2) BH 209 is hard to ignite and you need a strong primer, but not sure it will ignite unless directly under the primer."
What inline has the powder positioned directly under the primer??
It is my understanding that all well designed breech plug will have a 5/52 flash channel of at least .5" in length then an orface of aproxamatly.03125. This orface is commonly called the vent . many have replacable vents.
I believe if western has given the Ok then they are aware of the design of the 209 adapter that will be used and the OP will be good to go.
Check Graf and sons for Harvestor green sabots for 44 boolitz. the 240Gr lead swc may be short enough to stabilize in 1x75 . Grafs may also have the RB sabots.
It is my opinion and findings that the resistence of a minimum of 35lbs to push sabot and projectile down the bore will be nessisary for good ignition of the BH209. IMHO BH209 needs a tight fitting combo to get it lit properly.
Last edited by Screwbolts; 01-20-2018 at 08:58 AM. Reason: spellen & other stuff
01-20-2018, 05:04 PM
#14
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 9
That's good information. I have always used a very tight patch/ball combination. But with black powder, I just slid the patched ball down on the powder with the ramrod. I doubt the compression was more than 4-5 lbs. I think I'll need to get some kind of ramrod palm protector similar to what I see on some of the in-line ramrods, like the one that comes with the Accura, in order to put 35 lbs compression on the load.
01-21-2018, 07:07 AM
#15
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kerrville, Tx. USA
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What inline has the powder positioned directly under the primer?
I should have said "directly inline with the flame channel of the breechplug"
It might work, but I think you will have some misfires. Unless the granules move in good amounts into the sidelock channel, it won't ignite. Sometimes I have trouble getting pyrodex or 777 granules to make that turn, especially after a shot or two. I believe you will have trouble getting the BH granules even more so.
Just because they told you it was safe, doesn't mean it will go boom. Be sure and let us know how that works out.
I should have said "directly inline with the flame channel of the breechplug"
It might work, but I think you will have some misfires. Unless the granules move in good amounts into the sidelock channel, it won't ignite. Sometimes I have trouble getting pyrodex or 777 granules to make that turn, especially after a shot or two. I believe you will have trouble getting the BH granules even more so.
Just because they told you it was safe, doesn't mean it will go boom. Be sure and let us know how that works out.
01-21-2018, 08:10 AM
#16
Giant Nontypical
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01-30-2018, 08:08 AM
#17
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Eastern PA
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I'm not sure if this has been addressed on this post or not but I have a question about this. Wouldn't a round ball in a sabot be less accurate than a patched round ball in a slow twist barrel? Seems to me that the sabot would act more like a conical which we know are not as accurate as a patched ball in a slow twist. Without actually experimenting with these that would be my guess.
01-30-2018, 11:20 AM
#18
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,602
Dead soft lead will flow in between the petals of a sabot when fired. If the sabot is tight you will probably even deform the ball a little on loading.
The critical part though is not getting the jag caught IN the sabot or you risk it pulling the sabot off the powder. You can either cut the sabot petals way back or maybe just use a much smaller jag like a 36cal.
The critical part though is not getting the jag caught IN the sabot or you risk it pulling the sabot off the powder. You can either cut the sabot petals way back or maybe just use a much smaller jag like a 36cal.
