blackhorn 209 120 gr

weighed the 14 i have left after all the shooting and they weigh anywhere from 260 to 263.6 grains.

MD, The problems with the great plains and the PB's at close range are the same. all lead lighter weight bullet with a hollow point.IMHO if they both had a metplate instead of a hollow point they would work a whole lot better.the heavier conicals like the bullshops and no excuse do not explode at close range, they hit flatten out some and keep going..those big slow conicals are as effective as any premium priced bullet you can buy over the counter today. they just don't do it at 1,900 ft per second lol. Ray

agree'd.

Even my lee mini's did a great job at 20 yards in the sand bucket, but again, they arent hollow points.

builder,

They also drop like a rock at distance, and kick like mules.

Fast lighter bullets suit me better.

shooting LRH 50 cal glass bedded full lenght of stock and locks the front with glass in the groves will not move at all but hard to take apart

Hornady screwed up when they dropped the .50 caliber 410 grain flat point Great Plains bullet and kept the 385 grain hollow point. The heavier flat point was a great bullet. I put a lot of deer down with them and they never failed me. I won't use the 385 hollow point on deer.

To a degree your right, but then again your not out there with 120 gr bh either lol.70-80 gr pyrodex and a 460 gr bullet is about the same as 110 gr bh 209 and a 300 gr bullet!to be honest with you, i am bored with the saboted bullets out of my Triumph. just about every saboted bullet i have shot out if it drives tacks,except the 300 gr deep curls . shooting the little Knight wolverine with conicals seemed to make it fun and challenging again.i am seriously considering going that direction to be perfectly honest.don't be suprised if you see my Triumph up for sale and me looking for a .45 White or a .45 Knight. maybe the wolverine sparked the old days with the renegade .54 and conicals.when you see people on the no excuse sight regularly taking game out to 225 yds with the big lead and peep sights. i say to myself, now that's a challenge! Ray

Whats crazy is the fact that its just a tiny hollow point and yet it still is enough to make a big chunk of lead like that explode.

MD lookes like the 260gr pt are closer then 300gr pt the barnes 250gr tmz are closer then the 290 tmz in weigh all the 300gr pts Ive weighed are all over 300gr