tc triumph,cva apex
06-18-2009 | 06:42 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: tc triumph,cva apex
lostbackpacker, there is a White Super 91 in .451 for sale on DWB's website. Black iced and in great condition according to the owner. If a .451 is legal for your hunting, that would be an excellent choice.
Rifle belongs to a member that goes by the handle "Savagebrother". He is asking 350. tkrebs AT insight.rr.com if you are intested.
He might even have a rear sight for it.
Rifle belongs to a member that goes by the handle "Savagebrother". He is asking 350. tkrebs AT insight.rr.com if you are intested.
He might even have a rear sight for it.
06-18-2009 | 07:17 AM
#12
Boone & Crockett
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RE: tc triumph,cva apex
lostbackpacker
I am basically stapped with the same ML rules you are... and if you a looking for a great Pacific Northwest Legal ML - the gun that UC is showing you is the one. I own and shoot a White M97 U-mag and they are outstanding guns. They will shoot sabots and they will shoot conicals.
While they are no longer available and parts are tight I would tell not to get to hung up on that, the guns are pretty much indestructable and there are enough people around that what parts you might need can be had.
If you were to decide on this I have a set of sights for it or aftermarket sights are available for it.
The only thing I am not sure of in your rules can you hunt with a 45 caliber? We have a .428 rule over here in Idaho - which would still be OK with this gun only you would have to shoot a full bore 'slip fit' concical.
Since Washington changes there ML rule this year that you can now shoot a sabot with a copper jacket bullet there may be a size restriction. Also remember Washington did consider but rejected the 'lead ban' this year might that make a difference in the future...
I am basically stapped with the same ML rules you are... and if you a looking for a great Pacific Northwest Legal ML - the gun that UC is showing you is the one. I own and shoot a White M97 U-mag and they are outstanding guns. They will shoot sabots and they will shoot conicals.
While they are no longer available and parts are tight I would tell not to get to hung up on that, the guns are pretty much indestructable and there are enough people around that what parts you might need can be had.
If you were to decide on this I have a set of sights for it or aftermarket sights are available for it.
The only thing I am not sure of in your rules can you hunt with a 45 caliber? We have a .428 rule over here in Idaho - which would still be OK with this gun only you would have to shoot a full bore 'slip fit' concical.
Since Washington changes there ML rule this year that you can now shoot a sabot with a copper jacket bullet there may be a size restriction. Also remember Washington did consider but rejected the 'lead ban' this year might that make a difference in the future...
06-18-2009 | 07:10 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: tc triumph,cva apex
Washington Muzzleloader Regulations (excerpts)
1. Definitions.
a. Muzzleloader: A firearm which is loaded from the muzzle and uses black powder or a black powder substitute as recommended by the manufacturer for use in all muzzleloading firearms.
b. A muzzleloading firearm shall be considered loaded if a powder charge and a projectile, either shot or single projectile are in the barrel and the barrel or breech is capped or primed.
2. It is unlawful to hunt wildlife using a muzzleloading firearm which does not meet the following specifications.
b. A muzzleloading shotgun or rifle used for deer must be .40 caliber or larger. Buckshot size #1 or larger may be used in a smoothbore of .60 caliber or larger for deer.
c. A muzzleloading shotgun, rifle, or handgun used for all other big game must be .45 caliber or larger.
f. A muzzleloading handgun used for big game must be .45 caliber or larger.
As in the past sabots are allowed.
New this year any type of projectile is allowed.
a. Ignition is to be wheel lock, matchlock, flintlock, or percussion using original style percussion caps that fit on the nipple and are exposed to the weather. "Exposed to
the weather" means the percussion cap or the frizzen must be visible and not capable of being enclosed by an integral part of the weapon proper. Primers designed to be
used in modern cartridges are not legal.
b. Sights must be open, peep or of other open sight design. Fiber optic sights are legal. Telescopic sights or sights containing glass are prohibited.
1. Definitions.
a. Muzzleloader: A firearm which is loaded from the muzzle and uses black powder or a black powder substitute as recommended by the manufacturer for use in all muzzleloading firearms.
b. A muzzleloading firearm shall be considered loaded if a powder charge and a projectile, either shot or single projectile are in the barrel and the barrel or breech is capped or primed.
2. It is unlawful to hunt wildlife using a muzzleloading firearm which does not meet the following specifications.
b. A muzzleloading shotgun or rifle used for deer must be .40 caliber or larger. Buckshot size #1 or larger may be used in a smoothbore of .60 caliber or larger for deer.
c. A muzzleloading shotgun, rifle, or handgun used for all other big game must be .45 caliber or larger.
f. A muzzleloading handgun used for big game must be .45 caliber or larger.
As in the past sabots are allowed.
New this year any type of projectile is allowed.
a. Ignition is to be wheel lock, matchlock, flintlock, or percussion using original style percussion caps that fit on the nipple and are exposed to the weather. "Exposed to
the weather" means the percussion cap or the frizzen must be visible and not capable of being enclosed by an integral part of the weapon proper. Primers designed to be
used in modern cartridges are not legal.
b. Sights must be open, peep or of other open sight design. Fiber optic sights are legal. Telescopic sights or sights containing glass are prohibited.
