gleason.chapman

FG, What does TTT mean? I asked my 19 year old daughter and she said "That The End", I said no TTT and she said she didn't know, so enlighten us on your shorthand we have not been to PB school that long! . Chap

Beezer

TTT= To The Top....Meaning another post to throw the topic back to the top of the list so that others can see it.

IMO, this topic and thread are very informative and helpful. Frontier's postings have been knowledgeable and clear on what conclusions HIS use of PBs have shown and how they are most effective. As with anything, opinionsand attitudes vary. Not all broadheads will work effectively for every bowhunter, not all bullets will work effectively for every gunhunter. BUT, experiences like his help everyone elsemake sound judgements and decisions. I, for one, am going to use what's easiest and most accurate in my gun. This happens to be PBs until something else comes along.

If anyone else has experiences in using PBs effectively, I'd like to hear those as I'm sure a few others would like to hear them also. If the posts are just to bang on them and tell how someone thinks they are worthless.....there's another thread somewhere in here for that. If you'll post to it, instead of here, it'll save those of us with interest in this thread the wasted time of reading that particular opinion when we're looking for a useful one to this topic.

Thanks FG, keep 'em coming.

srwshooter

THATS THE MAIN PROBLEM WITH THE INTERNET ,...Deleted by CalHunter...

srwshooter

i doubt you have any more experience then me and my hunting buddies do with the 295hp powerbelts,we have taken between 150-200 deer with these bullets. we shoot 100grns of pyrodex,777 ,shockeys gold or black powder with them. we've hd know performance problems with them at all.

frontier gander

well good. Glad you are having great luck.
What kind of distances are we looking at in your hunting areas? Longest distance deer traveled?

Was that recovered bullet from a shoulder or lung shot?

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CalHunter

Gentlemen,
I've edited and/or deleted some posts that violate HNI rules. You are not allowed to insult or flame each other. There is a lot of good information here that is helpful to members trying to learn more about powerbelt bullets and then make educated decisions on whether to use them or not. Please do not continue to violate HNI rules.
CalHunter
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srwshooter

that bullet was under the hide on the opposite side ,it went thru both shoulders on a 180lb buck . the shot was about 80yds. most people that i see having problems are shooting 120-150grns ,thats just to much powder behind a powerbelt.these copper bullets really don't have a jacket,its just plating,so theywill come apart at high velocities .i'm not a believer in 150grns in any ML ,most guns don't group as well at higher velocities anyway. i also think that around 300grn bullets work a lot better then the light ones do. i say shoot heavier bullets and knock them down. we have all found that the hp 295 tends to group just alittle better then the aerotip. i buy the aerotips a walmart on sale and pop out the tips. they are the same bullets. thebullet in pic's abovewas shot in my cva magbolt with 100grns of 777 pellets and win 209pr. i have recovered one this year that was shot in my new triiumph that looked about the same ,only the deer was shot facing me the bullet went all the way thru the deer and layed under the hide on his hind quarter.

oh, most deer that i have shot have not gone very far ,i can't think of one that went over 50yds and i've seen alot drop in there tracks.

gleason.chapman

Current issue of Guns and Ammo magazine has an article by Mr. Muzzleloader Sam Fadala and his son Nick Fadala titled "Wide-Body Wack", he says "Broad Meplate Bullets in .45-70 persauasion are proving that "big and slow" is the way to go for dangerous game. They were shooting this big 540 Hammerhead meplate bullets at 1550 fps into charginghippo and cape buffalo dropping them in their tracks at 10 feet. Now that is confidence in your bullet in your bullet going "big andslow". It is an excellent article talking about Momentum and Kenetic energy. There are two camps in these MLer bullet discussions, the long range KE campand the Momemtum camp, both have their place in modern inline muzzleloading. I think you have to determine if your going to be an "in the woods" < 100 yards ML shooter or an "open fields" ML shooter. Anyway this article agrees with your theory of Big and Slow for in the woods or close shooting. Sorry this is a bit off the PB thread, but the PB fit the in the woods camp, and it does deal with bullet performance as FG was saying "SLOW" is the way to go for PBs. IE forget the PB marketing page showing 100, 150 and 130g powder bullet loads, it was made for the "long range" crowd.
Chap Gleason