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Omega Owner Confused and disappointed please help

Old 11-07-2005, 06:22 PM
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Default Omega Owner Confused and disappointed please help

hey guys I really neeed help. In the last 2 days I have shot about 45 rounds through my brand new 50cal laminated thumbhole stock sst. I can not get this thing to group worth a darn at 50 yards. I use a wet patch and dry patch between every shot. my setup is winchester primers, BlackMag3 90-100 gr I have tried both with no change and I'm shooting 250gr shockwaves. I have also tried 245 gr powerbelts. Sometimes I hit dead nuts where I'm aiming and other times I'm 6 inches away. Here is an example from today. 1st shot is dead nuts. 2nd shot is 6 inches to the right. 3rd shot is 6 inches to the left. 4th and 5th shot touch the 1st shot. 6th shot is 5 inches high to the right. 7th shot is 2 inches to the left. 8th shot is2 inches high andto the right. 9th shot is 5 inches high and to the right. Now if your able to follow all that, why is it I can't shot 3 shoots in a row that will all touch or at least be close. I get one right on, then the next 2 will be here and there with no rhyme or reason. I shot off of a solid table, using a gun vise. I squeeze the trigger very slow and really concentrate. at this point my smooth bore shotgun groups more consistently at 75 yards, than this does at 50 I'm hoping to hunt with my muzzleloader this year but at this point I don't feel good about the accuracy.
please help I'm now lost.
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Old 11-07-2005, 06:28 PM
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The first thing I would do is check my stock screws and make sure they are tight. Same with the sights (or scope mount and ring screws if you are using a scope). If the gun is new, I would put at least 20 .50 lead conicals through it, without cleaning between shots, to sort of lap in the barrel. Also, your gun just might not like the powder/bullet combination. Try two Pyrodex pellets with the 250 grain Shockwave.
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Old 11-07-2005, 06:31 PM
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changing powder can really make a difference in accuracy? I thought about that yesterday but wasn't sure

I do use a good niklon scope and everything is tight
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Old 11-07-2005, 06:45 PM
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I had semi the same problem with sighting in my CVA. Followed the advise of some of the guys on here and it started shooting dead on. One of the things i did is use a wet patch wrapped around a bore brush then followed with a dry patch or two. I got consistant groupings. Maybe it will help.
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Old 11-07-2005, 06:47 PM
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I'm also a new Omega owner, and it took me about 300 shots to find the right combo that gives me tight groups (I'm using 300 gr Shockwaves and 110 gr 777 powder).

I had the same problem you describe. I would get two dead on and third way off. I experimented with several different bullets, different sabots, and tried a couple propellents in various forms. I also learned to be very meticulous with cleaning between shots and making sure each shot left a barrel that was in the same condition as the previous shot.

My advice would be to try 777 and AP in various measures, to buy around 15 bullets from every manufacturer you can afford, use a couple different sabots, make sure your in-between shot routine is standardized, and above all, keep shooting. You will eventually find what works for you. Good luck
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Old 11-07-2005, 07:00 PM
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The first thing I would do is take some J-B Bore Paste and scrub the barrel using a small piece of Scotch Brite Scrub Pad, a patch wormand the paste. I would give it about 50 strokes. Then clean it real good. After that I would shoot a box of maxiball out of it. That should make sure that the barrel is nice and smooth.

Since you're sure the scope is attached right, and the scope is not defective, after the cleaning I would try it again on the range. You might also want to pick up a pound of Pyrodex RS. When all else fails go to what they test the rifles with at the factory. When I talked to a tech at Thompson Center, he said that Pyrodex is still one of the best powders out there for shooting. Maybe he has stock in the stuff. I get better results with Goex.

As for swabbing, get a bore brush and a damp/wet patch for the first swab down the barrel. if that comes up filthy then run a second one down. Then be sure to run a couple dry patches after that before you reload. Good luck. It sounds like your on the right track. It might be be the ghost of the new rifle not wanting to leave yet....

Good luck.
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Old 11-07-2005, 07:01 PM
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a buddie of mine had the same problem with his omega won't groupe to save it life.
I told him to try some Hornady xtp (not the mag) gun started to get some good groups,I also gave him 10 rounds of the buffalo 375 grain SSB boattail bullet sabot,gun shot clover leaf groups at the 50 yard target.
I think his load was using real black powder around 85 grains of 3f goex.
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Old 11-07-2005, 07:03 PM
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Dang!!!! 300 shots!!??!! I put 15 rounds through my new 50 cal stainless camo stock Omega to sight it in back in June then hurt my shoulder (rotator cuff/surgery/out for 16 weeks). 1st day in the woods for 20 minutes and bang - dead deer. 250 Gr. Saboted Hornady SST (same thing as a shockwave), Winchester 209 and 3 777 50 grainers. I hunted with 4 others that got new T/C Omegas (thumbholes, complete laminates, camo and plastic) and every single one of them was sighted in in 15 shots or less. We shot everything from pyrodex or 777 and some liked SST's or shockwaves or powerbelts. Shot the M/L again this past weekend. 3 295 Gr powerbelts almost touching at 50 yards. My Omega is deadly accurate. Sorry to hear about your problems..

PS those Hornady XTP's were a real Bitc# to load in my Omega...
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Old 11-07-2005, 07:11 PM
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Dang!!!! 300 shots!!??!!
I'm really anal Plus I bought all that ammo so I had to shoot it all off. Just because it wasn't working for me doesn't mean I was going to throw it all away


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Old 11-07-2005, 09:03 PM
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Sabre-Try Pyro or 777 I did not have any luck at all with my Omega using BM3 and bullets less than 300gr.

Charlie
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