"break-up" orange vest in Montana question
03-14-2005, 05:56 PM
#11
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Montana
Posts: 586
RE: "break-up" orange vest in Montana question
ORIGINAL: Pace Maker
Well, I called the Montana fish and game dept. The woman I spoke with there seemed very confused when I asked the question about the vest. She said at first she didn't know, and then later told me that it had to be solid. Further into the conversation she described to me what an orange vest was! She acutually said to me that an orange vest was "a vest you wear over your clothes, They come in different sizes, some are small and only go part way down your sides and some go all the way to your hips." If I don't know that, I better not be allowed to carry a gun! Not the definitive answer I was looking for. I'll try emailing them and see what I get for an answer.
Well, I called the Montana fish and game dept. The woman I spoke with there seemed very confused when I asked the question about the vest. She said at first she didn't know, and then later told me that it had to be solid. Further into the conversation she described to me what an orange vest was! She acutually said to me that an orange vest was "a vest you wear over your clothes, They come in different sizes, some are small and only go part way down your sides and some go all the way to your hips." If I don't know that, I better not be allowed to carry a gun! Not the definitive answer I was looking for. I'll try emailing them and see what I get for an answer.
She is right though, vests are meant to be worn over your clothes. My son had one on under his jacket and I couldn't see it at all, even with binoculars. And they do come in various sizes. I bought a larger one for me and smaller ones for my sons. I could tell we needed different sizes because when we stand next to each other, I need to look down to see their faces. Purty smart of me, huh? Didn't you know this?
03-14-2005, 08:49 PM
#12
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Beautiful Western Montana
Posts: 2,308
RE: "break-up" orange vest in Montana question
Just my 2 cents here, but what is the purpose of a camo orange vest? I have seen several of these out in the field here and you cannot see them near as well as a solid orange. I would worry much more about a hunter not seeing you, than the possibilty of you being seen by a animal with solid orange. Be safe, wear solid orange, the animals could careless if you have camo or solid, they see movement no matter what you wear.
03-14-2005, 09:35 PM
#13
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Montana
Posts: 586
RE: "break-up" orange vest in Montana question
Good question and good point. I bought my vest a few years ago, thinking that, since deer can't see color, what a great idea to break up my outline. In fact, it should work so well that I should be able to use the same vest for bow season, right? For me a vest doubles as a day pack.
Since that time, I have joined this forum called Hunting Net, where these guys type in questions and share advice. There have been several threads on the subject and I have now been convinced that the camo doesn't help. But the vest isn't worn out and I still use it. It's well over 400 sq in. I have seen other hunters just fine in them. Maybe I look more carefully than the norm. The orange camo grabs my eye better that some of the slinky bare minimum torn and faded vests I have seen.
You may have a point. I will try it on my sons before season and look again. I do believe in safety.
Since that time, I have joined this forum called Hunting Net, where these guys type in questions and share advice. There have been several threads on the subject and I have now been convinced that the camo doesn't help. But the vest isn't worn out and I still use it. It's well over 400 sq in. I have seen other hunters just fine in them. Maybe I look more carefully than the norm. The orange camo grabs my eye better that some of the slinky bare minimum torn and faded vests I have seen.
You may have a point. I will try it on my sons before season and look again. I do believe in safety.
03-16-2005, 07:57 AM
#14
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 94
RE: "break-up" orange vest in Montana question
Here is the reply from Montana FWP on the email I sent asking about the break-up orange vest.
"Sounds like you will have plenty of hunter orange on. Good luck on your hunting trip!"
Again, not a definitive yes or no answer, but I guess it's legal.
"Sounds like you will have plenty of hunter orange on. Good luck on your hunting trip!"
Again, not a definitive yes or no answer, but I guess it's legal.
03-17-2005, 10:18 AM
#15
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Moccasin, Montana
Posts: 1,835
RE: "break-up" orange vest in Montana question
Pace Maker,
The requierment is 400 sq. in. of hunter orange(fluorescent)material above the waste visible at all times.
That means the break-up orange will work,it is made of flouresent orange and is consisting of more than 400 sq. in.
I wear a solid orange vest/shirt.It has never hindered me from getting my game.
The requierment is 400 sq. in. of hunter orange(fluorescent)material above the waste visible at all times.
That means the break-up orange will work,it is made of flouresent orange and is consisting of more than 400 sq. in.
I wear a solid orange vest/shirt.It has never hindered me from getting my game.
