"break-up" orange vest in Montana question
#1
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 94
"break-up" orange vest in Montana question
I searched the Montana State site for information on whether or not hunter orange had to be a solid vest or could a break-up pattern be worn, but it just said 400ci. I'm assuming as long as it's 400ci any pattern is fine. But I know in some states it has to be solid. Any info on this? Thanks.
#3
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Montana
Posts: 586
RE: "break-up" orange vest in Montana question
Good question, Nemont's right. I wear one in Montana and see lots of them. Even though I know we're right, if you're travelling that far I wouldn't take anyone's word for it. Call the Montana FWP. Their phone numbers are on their Montana FWP website.
#4
RE: "break-up" orange vest in Montana question
Camo break up is fine as long as its 400" of flurosecent orange thats in it. Thats only an area 10"x40". If your in doubt that you don't have at least 400" than stick a cap on. I would really like to see a game warden out there with a tape measure and try measuring all the flur. camo break up pattern. If you make attempt to try to be seen is the most important and also don't forget if your wearing your fluroscent orange and then throw your back pack on, then you don't have 400" of visible orange. During gun season I would wear it out here even if it wasn't required. I think what happened in Idaho last year, it may be required there by next year. Bobby
#6
RE: "break-up" orange vest in Montana question
Jones, I'm not sure of all the details but a hunter was mistaken for an animal and killed in the panhandle. He wasn't wearing any orange but its not required there either. It didn't happen very far from here and thats why it made the news. Maybe some homeboys from Idaho know a little bit more? Sorry. Bobby
#7
Typical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Cologne, MN
Posts: 510
RE: "break-up" orange vest in Montana question
Pacemaker, I've only hunted out there twice thus far but I had that same question so I called the fish and game department. I was told it must be solid orange and not camo orange. Here is what it states in the regs for 2005 and it didn't say anything about camo orange being OK. It only designated it as "Florescent".
Firearm Hunters: Any person hunting or accompanying a
hunter as an outfitter or guide must wear a minimum of 400
square inches of hunter orange (fluorescent) material above
the waist, visible at all times (see exception below).
Firearm Hunters: Any person hunting or accompanying a
hunter as an outfitter or guide must wear a minimum of 400
square inches of hunter orange (fluorescent) material above
the waist, visible at all times (see exception below).
#8
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 94
RE: "break-up" orange vest in Montana question
Well, I called the Montana fish and game dept. The woman I spoke with there seemed very confused when I asked the question about the vest. She said at first she didn't know, and then later told me that it had to be solid. Further into the conversation she described to me what an orange vest was! She acutually said to me that an orange vest was "a vest you wear over your clothes, They come in different sizes, some are small and only go part way down your sides and some go all the way to your hips." If I don't know that, I better not be allowed to carry a gun! Not the definitive answer I was looking for. I'll try emailing them and see what I get for an answer.
#9
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 220
RE: "break-up" orange vest in Montana question
Pacemaker,
I have used the breakup pattern for about the last ten years. I have hunted with guys from the FWP who wear the same thing. I have been checked in the field and at game check stations without a problem. What region are you hunting? I would call that regions HQ and asked to talk directly to a warden or to the Warden Captain.
Just my 2 cents.
Nemont
I have used the breakup pattern for about the last ten years. I have hunted with guys from the FWP who wear the same thing. I have been checked in the field and at game check stations without a problem. What region are you hunting? I would call that regions HQ and asked to talk directly to a warden or to the Warden Captain.
Just my 2 cents.
Nemont
#10
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Arcadia Ca USA
Posts: 210
RE: "break-up" orange vest in Montana question
Here is the Montana law...
The way I have seen the Montana Orange Rule interpreted is any form of orange, camo or solid, that is visible from ALL sides.
Wyoming is the same rule but they specify that orange camo patterns are ok.
Hunter Orange Requirement – Any person hunting or accompanying hunters (including outfitters and guides) must wear a minimum of 400 square inches of hunter orange (fluorescent) material above the waist visible at all times.
Wyoming is the same rule but they specify that orange camo patterns are ok.