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Old 02-03-2004 | 08:41 PM
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I say again, too proud to ask assistance or work an odd job, but not too proud to steal!!?? Or even worse, send your kid out to steal for you!!!!
Something is very, very wrong here!

Also if they would have a dozen deer tags, they should be able to get enough meat in season to last the year!

No matter how you look at it, there is just no way to justify this theft!
Nor to excuse the parents irresponsibility!
This is not even close to being a matter of survival!
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Old 02-03-2004 | 09:10 PM
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Now please remember that this is a hypothetical question. But I am really appreciating all the input. Thanks!
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Old 02-04-2004 | 07:26 AM
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It is possible the parents are ignorant of game seasons, and the youth doesn't understand the concept. Sometimes a warning can go a long way.

For example this past archery season at the WMA I hunt one of the people I know was checked by the G&F officer. he did not have his WMA stamp...or was it his archery stamp...anyway he was mising one of his stamps. This person has always had his stuff in order until now. Was it an accident? I don't know and neither did the officer. Did my friend get a warning or a ticket? Well, it was his first incident in at least 5 years at this WMA, and most of us know each other and the G&F officer, and the biologist who runs this particular WMA.

It all depends on your attitude. My friend was apologetic and confused, and called his wife to bring him some money so he could go get his stamp. Well, he got a warning. it was obvious he was truthfull to the officer.

Law enforcement officers get to use discretion, and it can be a good thing when he has all the facts.
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Old 02-04-2004 | 09:48 AM
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discretion is great as long as another offender does not see it.knowone will answer my question.what if another offender sees you let him go.then that offender uses that against you when he is caught.the law has not provisions for discretion. not only can you not prosecute the other offender he can sue you for not doing your job.he would have grounds for discrimination also.
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Old 02-04-2004 | 09:58 AM
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not only can you not prosecute the other offender
Why not he still broke the law.

as a police officer you are pwerless to do anything anyway.it is a game law and up to the local game warden to enforce that law
A policeman can arrest someone for a game violation. Seen it done. Or he could hold the person until a DEC officer can get there.
You trying to tell me that if a cop witnesses you shooting a deer illegally he can't arrest you? Let's say for example if you were to shoot one at night out of your car window? What State were you a cop in?
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Old 02-04-2004 | 10:10 AM
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yes that is eaxctly what i am saying.game laws do not fall under enforcement by police offocers. they can hold til a game warden arrives.it is a entirely seperate branch of the law.the reason you could not prosecute is that it would show bias in the enforcement.they both broke the law.one is not worse than the other.waiy a minute. you say you have seen a officer arrest some for a game violation and then the next minute you say at least hold them for a game officer.which is it?if you see a deer being shot illegally you can only hold them until a game officer arrives and files the case. you will be used as a witness to the offense.if both people shot a deer illegally you either have to enforce both or ignore both.you can not let one go and enforce the other. it shows bias and will not be prosecuted
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Old 02-04-2004 | 10:10 AM
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i retired after 25 years with the dallas county sheriffs dept in dallas,texas
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Old 02-04-2004 | 11:48 AM
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you say you have seen a officer arrest some for a game violation and then the next minute you say at least hold them for a game officer.which is it?
I live in NY I have seen a PO arrest someone for a game violation. Shooting to close to an occupied dwelling.

The reason I said he could at least hold them was because you said he was powerless to do anything.

So if you let one speeder go, you can never right another speeding ticket?
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Old 02-04-2004 | 11:59 AM
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shooting next to a dwelling has absolutely nothibg to do with game laws.holding someone and arresting them is 2 different things.you are just blabbering and reading what i said.if the second offender witnesses you allowing the first to break the law and then tries to enforce the same law on him it shows bias and will not be prosecuted.you have jumped from game laws to sppeding tickets but the same applies.if you choose to let an offender of any type go then you better hope another offender stopped for the same reason does not witness it.take the time to read what i said and quit jumping around.
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Old 02-04-2004 | 12:02 PM
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a regular police officer,even in new york, has no training in game laws.he just gets training in local and state laws. even less training in federal laws.ther is absolutely ) training in game law.even if the dwelling was in the country side it still has nothing to do with game laws.
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