Atv for deer hunting?
02-08-2014, 05:01 PM
#33
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Northern Minnesota
Posts: 2,533
Hey they are an early warning system ... another set of eyes and ears.. let you know somethings there. Try that with a 4 wheeler. Most mules know the smells around where they live. With them it is more the Sight of a wolf or bear than the smell. Especially if your trying to get it to walk up on a dead one.
KSWild, Flags, and Rock... I honestly respect your ability's to be able to use, and hunt with horses, and mules. To be honest again, I'm envious of that. For me it's not exactly the "Twilight Zone", but it is certainly not an experience I was brought up with, or have ever been exposed too. IMHO it would be great to at least experience something like that at least once in my lifetime.
Now to the GPS... I can't remember the exact year I bought mine, but am thinking that it was in this century. I managed to get by with just my compass since the late 60's, but also feel that the GPS is one of the greatest inventions since the compass... I doubt I'll be following my GPS off of a cliff anytime soon.
As to being lost and having to camp out in the woods... Hell I've purposely camped out in the woods so I'd be lost to everyone else... No big thing there... Try it at zero degrees under a self made lean-two... It's amazing how quickly one learns under those conditions.
Now back to the gist of this thread... Welcome to 2014... Baring anything drastic, wheelers are here to stay in many if not most regions/areas in this nation. Those with any sense seek out the machines that best serve their purpose in the areas they live. I'll admit that I'm out of line trying to tell RR or anyone else what the best machine is for them in their regions/areas. Likewise, anyone else is equally out of line telling me how well a certain machine will work in my area/region unless they can prove they've actually dealt with the conditions that I deal with.
Flags, I'm not sure about the reason for your animosity, but as Rock pointed out, it may very well be the operator, not the wheeler that you should be directing that animosity towards. I can only speak for myself, but can say that I always do my best to make sure that when I'm running my wheelers, or snowmobile that I'm not doing something that is interfering or disrupting someone Else's hunting.
02-08-2014, 05:12 PM
#34
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Kansas
Posts: 616
Well this one is taking some interesting turns... I guess at this time I'd like to make a couple of things clear from my point of view.
KSWild, Flags, and Rock... I honestly respect your ability's to be able to use, and hunt with horses, and mules. To be honest again, I'm envious of that. For me it's not exactly the "Twilight Zone", but it is certainly not an experience I was brought up with, or have ever been exposed too. IMHO it would be great to at least experience something like that at least once in my lifetime.
Now to the GPS... I can't remember the exact year I bought mine, but am thinking that it was in this century. I managed to get by with just my compass since the late 60's, but also feel that the GPS is one of the greatest inventions since the compass... I doubt I'll be following my GPS off of a cliff anytime soon.
As to being lost and having to camp out in the woods... Hell I've purposely camped out in the woods so I'd be lost to everyone else... No big thing there... Try it at zero degrees under a self made lean-two... It's amazing how quickly one learns under those conditions.
Now back to the gist of this thread... Welcome to 2014... Baring anything drastic, wheelers are here to stay in many if not most regions/areas in this nation. Those with any sense seek out the machines that best serve their purpose in the areas they live. I'll admit that I'm out of line trying to tell RR or anyone else what the best machine is for them in their regions/areas. Likewise, anyone else is equally out of line telling me how well a certain machine will work in my area/region unless they can prove they've actually dealt with the conditions that I deal with.
Flags, I'm not sure about the reason for your animosity, but as Rock pointed out, it may very well be the operator, not the wheeler that you should be directing that animosity towards. I can only speak for myself, but can say that I always do my best to make sure that when I'm running my wheelers, or snowmobile that I'm not doing something that is interfering or disrupting someone Else's hunting.
KSWild, Flags, and Rock... I honestly respect your ability's to be able to use, and hunt with horses, and mules. To be honest again, I'm envious of that. For me it's not exactly the "Twilight Zone", but it is certainly not an experience I was brought up with, or have ever been exposed too. IMHO it would be great to at least experience something like that at least once in my lifetime.
Now to the GPS... I can't remember the exact year I bought mine, but am thinking that it was in this century. I managed to get by with just my compass since the late 60's, but also feel that the GPS is one of the greatest inventions since the compass... I doubt I'll be following my GPS off of a cliff anytime soon.
As to being lost and having to camp out in the woods... Hell I've purposely camped out in the woods so I'd be lost to everyone else... No big thing there... Try it at zero degrees under a self made lean-two... It's amazing how quickly one learns under those conditions.
Now back to the gist of this thread... Welcome to 2014... Baring anything drastic, wheelers are here to stay in many if not most regions/areas in this nation. Those with any sense seek out the machines that best serve their purpose in the areas they live. I'll admit that I'm out of line trying to tell RR or anyone else what the best machine is for them in their regions/areas. Likewise, anyone else is equally out of line telling me how well a certain machine will work in my area/region unless they can prove they've actually dealt with the conditions that I deal with.
Flags, I'm not sure about the reason for your animosity, but as Rock pointed out, it may very well be the operator, not the wheeler that you should be directing that animosity towards. I can only speak for myself, but can say that I always do my best to make sure that when I'm running my wheelers, or snowmobile that I'm not doing something that is interfering or disrupting someone Else's hunting.
02-08-2014, 05:26 PM
#36
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,359
Well this one is taking some interesting turns... I guess at this time I'd like to make a couple of things clear from my point of view.
KSWild, Flags, and Rock... I honestly respect your ability's to be able to use, and hunt with horses, and mules. To be honest again, I'm envious of that. For me it's not exactly the "Twilight Zone", but it is certainly not an experience I was brought up with, or have ever been exposed too. IMHO it would be great to at least experience something like that at least once in my lifetime.
Now to the GPS... I can't remember the exact year I bought mine, but am thinking that it was in this century. I managed to get by with just my compass since the late 60's, but also feel that the GPS is one of the greatest inventions since the compass... I doubt I'll be following my GPS off of a cliff anytime soon.
As to being lost and having to camp out in the woods... Hell I've purposely camped out in the woods so I'd be lost to everyone else... No big thing there... Try it at zero degrees under a self made lean-two... It's amazing how quickly one learns under those conditions.
Now back to the gist of this thread... Welcome to 2014... Baring anything drastic, wheelers are here to stay in many if not most regions/areas in this nation. Those with any sense seek out the machines that best serve their purpose in the areas they live. I'll admit that I'm out of line trying to tell RR or anyone else what the best machine is for them in their regions/areas. Likewise, anyone else is equally out of line telling me how well a certain machine will work in my area/region unless they can prove they've actually dealt with the conditions that I deal with.
Flags, I'm not sure about the reason for your animosity, but as Rock pointed out, it may very well be the operator, not the wheeler that you should be directing that animosity towards. I can only speak for myself, but can say that I always do my best to make sure that when I'm running my wheelers, or snowmobile that I'm not doing something that is interfering or disrupting someone Else's hunting.
KSWild, Flags, and Rock... I honestly respect your ability's to be able to use, and hunt with horses, and mules. To be honest again, I'm envious of that. For me it's not exactly the "Twilight Zone", but it is certainly not an experience I was brought up with, or have ever been exposed too. IMHO it would be great to at least experience something like that at least once in my lifetime.
Now to the GPS... I can't remember the exact year I bought mine, but am thinking that it was in this century. I managed to get by with just my compass since the late 60's, but also feel that the GPS is one of the greatest inventions since the compass... I doubt I'll be following my GPS off of a cliff anytime soon.
As to being lost and having to camp out in the woods... Hell I've purposely camped out in the woods so I'd be lost to everyone else... No big thing there... Try it at zero degrees under a self made lean-two... It's amazing how quickly one learns under those conditions.
Now back to the gist of this thread... Welcome to 2014... Baring anything drastic, wheelers are here to stay in many if not most regions/areas in this nation. Those with any sense seek out the machines that best serve their purpose in the areas they live. I'll admit that I'm out of line trying to tell RR or anyone else what the best machine is for them in their regions/areas. Likewise, anyone else is equally out of line telling me how well a certain machine will work in my area/region unless they can prove they've actually dealt with the conditions that I deal with.
Flags, I'm not sure about the reason for your animosity, but as Rock pointed out, it may very well be the operator, not the wheeler that you should be directing that animosity towards. I can only speak for myself, but can say that I always do my best to make sure that when I'm running my wheelers, or snowmobile that I'm not doing something that is interfering or disrupting someone Else's hunting.
Back then mules made a lots of sense. We used them to coon hunt back when hides actually brought enough money to justify housing a mule. It worked great for chasing dogs all over. They jump fences so that alone was a big advantage.
Now days with people coming from all over and paying big money to hunt it just doesn't make sense anymore. Everything is private owned and most fences are either property lines or have gates. The biggest farm I have permission on is 500 acres and it has 2 roads running through it then I have 2 other farms that are about 300 acres each and 70% of that is crop fields.
It just doesn't make sense to use a mule here unless of course its simply because you want to.
I can certainly appreciate it. I do some things the old fashioned way because I like it and if I lived in the mountains and/or had vast expanses of land to use I'd probably use a mule but Ive been around and worked with live stock most of my life from farms to vet work to a slaughter house and to be honest I don't want any part of taking care of a mule I don't need at this point.
Last edited by rockport; 02-08-2014 at 05:46 PM.
02-08-2014, 05:49 PM
#37
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Northern Minnesota
Posts: 2,533
02-08-2014, 06:13 PM
#39
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Northern Minnesota
Posts: 2,533
There was once a time when a guy could pretty much hunt wherever he wanted in my area outside of deer hunting.
Back then mules made a lots of sense. We used them to coon hunt back when hides actually brought enough money to justify housing a mule. It worked great for chasing dogs all over. They jump fences so that alone was a big advantage.
Now days with people coming from all over and paying big money to hunt it just doesn't make sense anymore. Everything is private owned and most fences are either property lines or have gates. The biggest farm I have permission on is 500 acres and it has 2 roads running through it then I have 2 other farms that are about 300 acres each and 70% of that is crop fields.
It just doesn't make sense to use a mule here unless of course its simply because you want to.
I can certainly appreciate it. I do some things the old fashioned way because I like it and if I lived in the mountains and/or had vast expanses of land to use I'd probably use a mule but Ive been around and worked with live stock most of my life from farms to vet work to a slaughter house and to be honest I don't want any part of taking care of a mule I don't need at this point.
Back then mules made a lots of sense. We used them to coon hunt back when hides actually brought enough money to justify housing a mule. It worked great for chasing dogs all over. They jump fences so that alone was a big advantage.
Now days with people coming from all over and paying big money to hunt it just doesn't make sense anymore. Everything is private owned and most fences are either property lines or have gates. The biggest farm I have permission on is 500 acres and it has 2 roads running through it then I have 2 other farms that are about 300 acres each and 70% of that is crop fields.
It just doesn't make sense to use a mule here unless of course its simply because you want to.
I can certainly appreciate it. I do some things the old fashioned way because I like it and if I lived in the mountains and/or had vast expanses of land to use I'd probably use a mule but Ive been around and worked with live stock most of my life from farms to vet work to a slaughter house and to be honest I don't want any part of taking care of a mule I don't need at this point.
That said, this is 2014, and adapting to the times is what it is. I'm now 51 years old, and can't drag a deer like I could at 25 years old. The conditions of hunting areas are changing all across this nation. If someone wants to stick with the way they did it 50, 40 or 30 years ago, more power to them.
I for one have chosen to adapt to the times I'm dealing with today, and for now will continue to do so. Which for me deals with new, and old methods of hunting. No horses or mules for me, but am keeping a 31 year old wheeler running to suit my needs
02-08-2014, 06:31 PM
#40
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