Scent Lok
 

For those of you that have scent lok, I plan on hunting lightweight this year and I don't want to carry a big backpack to my hunts but this small light hunting fanny pack. My question is that it isn't scent lok. will it affect my scent lok suit to wear this? Should I spray it with scent eliminators are was it. Advice would be awesome, thanks.

You will have to sides on this. People who swear by scent proofing, other who think its a crock and just do there best to minimize their scent and rely on wind....

Treat your pack just like any other non scent lok piece of equipment you use. (Bow,rifle, etc)

I'm from the crock crowd.

I would put all the scent lok clothing in the fanny pack and leave it at home.

Same here.

you want to be just like the environment your in or nothing at all, figure that out. My packs are either outside hanging under cover all year or in a sealed closet in a room that holds the wood heater. Touched only by at least sprayed hands, never set down on anything human scented including my truck. I have large zip bags they go in for transporting, boots to.

Just give it some thought and you'll figure it out. I always carry an old wool coat in my pack for when I can't stand the cold anymore, never a scent issue. All my scentlok clothes stay stored till just before entering the woods and are always worn over layers a scent killing, moisture wicking layers after I'm totally cleaned and sprayed down with Hawgs Vanishing Hunter. All my scentlok clothes come off after a kill and stored in my pack till I can store them back into their separate zip bags at the truck. They only ever see the woods unless being reactivated and never for anything but taking game, not removing game. I haven't been scented by anything for close to 10 years now.

Leave your new pack out in the weather some were for a few months inside out, let bugs nest in it, wash it down after with some scent killer and store as close to the woods as you can or in a stored air tight bag, never touch it with contaminated hands and leave it in the bag till you leave your vehicle. Game will never think it's anything but what's supposed to be there. Anything in it will stay the same, my wool coat either smells like the woods or wood smoke, either is as close to perfect as it gets. I wash it maybe once a season,

I live in a woods so it's easy for me to leave stuff out. Be hard living in town, but not impossible. Build an enclosure out of some old barn wood, keep some straw in it and leave your gear there. I hunted a place once I thought was ruined till I saw how it played out. Farmer had left several bales of rolled straw right by my stand. That aging straw put off a stink that covered anything there. Native Americans used to stand in the smoke of sweet burning grass as a cover, same thing.

If your pack is like the woods I don't see any problems. If you've stunk it up with everything from home it won't work.

Same here!

Me, the chemistry of carbon alone makes it silly. The carbon will have absorbed much of it capacity just through manufacturing, shipping, and sitting in the retail stores. Also, the heat required to release the particles from the carbon would destroy the clothes and is not possible with a standard clothes dryer.

Crock! put your money to good use on needed equipment!

Fuhgeddaboudit
 

<<<Crock Crowd.

Hunt the wind, nevermind odor. If that scentlock works and your fanny pack emits zero odor, YOU are still emitting SOME odor regardless of what you are or are not wearing.

Creases, hemlines, openings, buttonholes, zipper lines all will emit odor.

At that point all of your investment will have netted you nothing cause you will have been BLOWN.

Keep the wind on your nose.

My $.02

When I first moved out here to Virginia, I found out my whitetail "mentor" was a true believer in scent control. He had me convinced that I needed to keep all my clothes and boots in special plastic bags to prevent any odors from seeping into the fabric. We dressed and undressed in the woods and never in a vehicle. Oh, and did I mention the more expensive the clothes the better. And by the way, don't eat any onions before going into the hunting grounds; they will smell it on your breathe. Since I had never hunted whitetail I went along with the shenanigans! At least for a while!!!

Since that time, I purchased a small farm and have come to understand that these whitetail deer live in my and my neighbors' back yard! They smell humans and human activity all day long! There are times the deer will come and eat the bird seed out of the bird feeders located a mere five feet from my kitchen window. In fact, there are sooo many deer living in the urban areas of Northern Virginia the State has to hire professional hunters to thin the herds. Yup, monster bucks living in the back yards of 123 Main Street!! Smell doesn't seem to bothering them!

The point being I do not use the scent control clothing anymore and have harvested plenty of deer. I keep my hunting clothes and boots behind the seat of my pick-up; not even in a bag, mind you. I am, however, convinced these local deer are more dependent on their vision for survival rather than scent.

I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything, I'm only sharing my experiences and opinions.

My vote? CROCK!

Scent Loc= False security for suckers! As stated above, the chemistry of carbon alone proves its a scam!

A deer is gunna smell ya if you are up wind and on the ground. A drug dog can small a dubie ( remember those?) in a kids locker, in the jacket pocket and in a plastic bag. That deer is going to smell you're scent if you worked up a sweat on the way out. My friend had a dog that fetched lost arrows. We'd look for those arrows for 10 minutes till we got the dog and the dog would find it in 10 seconds every time. A certain jacket with the latest whizz fabric isn't going to cut it. I wouldn't doubt if a deer could even smell the scent lock spray.

I just invested in some Scent Lok base layers. I've always used carbon and I believe it does help, although I also play the wind and use anything you can think of "scent proof".

I have had similar experience and also a not so similar experience. I hunted an area where a guy would feed the deer a lot and there were a lot of deer at the time. These deer did not mind human scent too much. Since then, the population is way down, the guy feeding moved away, and there is more hunting pressure. Now, in the same area, the deer are much more wary.

That said, I think the scent control industry has our pocketbooks in their cross hairs. There are a lot of "free" things you can do to minimize scent, the biggest being hunt down wind. I am not about to fork over the money they want. I do use Scent Killer spray (cheap), hang my clothes in a shed (no gas motors and if I am real gung ho store my clothes with pine boughs, apples, etc), and shower before using non-scented laundry soap (cheap). Not that sure all that helps, but it can't hurt. I DO know that when the wind shifts and blows scent their way the deer get wary and take off (my own experience) - and this happens even though I take all measures and even happened when I was 18 ft up in a stand.

I had a dog like that, he often would try to get all over me when I was ready to hunt because what he saw didn't jive with what he didn't smell.

I have beat deer' nose's many times before because I take care of my stink and part of it is SL.

My blue tick blood hound could find deer in lighting speed. It was like he knew every step they took while running at a very fast pace. It was incredible to watch that dog work. He was the kind that could find something up to 8 feet under water. He would literally try to break his chain to sniff me up when I was going hunting. Of course he could trail me because I left a fresh trail and that is what deer often follow to the hunter, turned up earth because freshly turned up earth uncovers food and they know it. When the hunter moves or makes sounds the deer know it and that's what causes them to get jiggy. Pick them up before they pick you up and you can often sit still and watch them pass by after they stop where you did and look all over for what turned up that fresh trail.

I've had deer bed down next to me on the ground.

Most hunters are to pre occupied with staying comfortable and not glassing, moving and making noise, telling every critter with in a half mile right where they are.

Most people who claim they tried scent control didn't do much at all. All there stuff stinks for starters and after they showered (maybe) they touched everything on the way out using a fresh towel the little woman has stunk all up real pretty. They climb in their trucks they did nothing to kill any stink in, stop and get gas and a sticky bun all dress up. And if they happen to not wear every piece they sit down on the tail gate or something like it to finish dressing. Then then claim scent control doesn't work and a deer is to much for the top of the food chain to fool. I've fooled to many that were staring right at me for what they thought was a 100 yards past me (me) and never know I was right there with the wind blowing straight in their face from me.

Does make you wonder though


if weed would attract deer? :)

scent lok.....
 

I've killed quite a few deer w/ scent lok, and quite a few w/o scent lok. Doesn't matter, we (humans) have a scent all of own own. The second we step into their living room we leave a sign. Synthetic fiber has a scent all its own that is foreign in the woods, as does dye. Use it and use the wind, that way you did all you could do and sleep well. I'm big on using the wind, no movement, no noise and sit for long periods. Usually the deer you see, were about a mile or two away and had no idea you came in.




If that helps ya.:confused0024:

Just not for me, not in the budget and I also think it is smoke and mirrors.

CVG Ohio

Yessir!
 

You got that right, everything about us is foriegn to them, like I said it doesn't matter. You'll never see the deer that got down wind of you IMO. My take on it is, I gotta wear something, so I might as well use it, it was a gift anyway. As for all that spraying and the rest, I don't use it. Less is better.:confused0024:

This is too funny!!! I too have scent blocker and scent lok gear that I wear into the woods at times thanks to my ol' lady buying me a christmas present, but I also feel it is all a crock and a way for companies to charge crazy amounts of money for gear. Can't go wrong when you play the wind.

Tight360, I have had plenty of deer come in from down wind washing my clothes with a basic no scent detergent and baking soda in the rinse.

Just use Scent away and play the wind,also rub some pine on me as I walk in(free from Mother nature).Worked for the forty years I've been hunting.

Crock!! I was once a die hard, experience and situations have proven this to me without any doubt.

Me too. Bought some on post-season clearance 5 or 6 years ago before I knew better -- I have no faith in it now. Stupidest thing ever is scent lock / gortex clothing. You rejuvenate carbon with heat and you can't put gortex in high heat without ruining it. One thing I do believe in is earth-scented cover sprays.

Hmm... Scent lok has been around since, 1992?

Deer hunting has been around since... the beginning of time?

Seems like people can do alright without it.

The main thing to do is always play the wind. Deer are going to smell you no matter what if they are downwind. You'll always have unique situations where a deer comes in downwind of you but you never know if other factors are influencing that (Ex. rising thermals). Heck the biggest buck I ever shot was this year and he came in downwind of me.

I travel 3 hours to where I hunt so I keep all my hunting clothes in a tub, mainly for convenience but it also helps that I don't spill anything on them during the trip. The only thing I do is wash my clothes in scent free detergent and spray down with scent killer before I head into the woods. Seems to work pretty well.

I bought my first pair of scent lok pants this year. They were marked down from $229 to $60 and the only reason I bought them is because they were a heavier duty camo material than all the other camo pants I have seen. Anytime they are marked down that much you know they aren't selling!

As the person wno was involved in the tests, and started the whole contorersy on an other web site. It does not work, do not waste your money.Use unscented febreeze. T.R.NichelsTrinity Mountain OUtdoors

Really, lot of people used to starve.

Just isn't true or I don't stink and I know I stink till I'm hunting. People just don;t take care of their stink, they think they do, but they don't and if they don't they better play the wind.

Take care of your stink and go up to deer in the dark, they won't freak out because they can't see you. Movement is the killer.

You got that right! $229 for a pair of pants - That would be the day LOL! At $60 they might be worth it if they were decent pants as you describe.

You got it MZS, the Scentlok name meant nothing on it. I bought them because its tough for me to find good, thick pants that fit me (6'7") and these were actually perfect. I just cant how anyone would pay $229 for a pair of pants. They've done multiple tests with bloodhounds and guys walking in the woods with scentlok and everytime the bloodhounds trail them right to the stand. If a bloodhound can smell you, a deer will too.

A side note too, This is a great time to buy next years hunting gear. I've learned that January/February is a great time to buy any clothes and stands that you might need for next year. I usually get most of my gear this time of year for 50% off. It stinks not being able to use it for another 10 months but when hunting season rolls around you'll know you saved a lot of money.

I think for those that starved,well Darwin at work.LOL

lol, I don't think nodog is too into Darwin.

Hey, he was created by God. :)

I have no desire to believe a lie no matter who's telling it. There's just too much evidence of a creator right in front of me to believe things just happened. For instance, take you, too much there to believe God didn't have a hand in who you are.

We both will see in the great by and by one day. We will weep and then we will laugh after we both realize what sacrifices were made for both of us. Who knows, Darwin maybe standing next to us.

I've beat to many deer's noses using scentlok among other things to ever believe a deer's nose can't be beat. After all, I am the king of the food chain.

Scent Loc is a WASTE of money. There is NO possible way that it can work! Carbon CANNOT be regenerated at temperatures that would not also burn the fabric to a crisp!
For those that have made good kills using scent loc....., deer make mistakes too! It does NOT mean that it was due to wearing scent loc! If you want to waste good money on junk, go ahead! There are hunters that smoke, sheet and pee and kill deer too! But its just luck!!!!!

Crock crowd..

For those of you who took a dominany buckm or any drer, while using Scent Lok, it was not the Scent Lok that did it. You played the wind right, took precautions do that you did not smell, and hunted hard and hunted correctly. Give yourself some credit - not a product that cannot work as stated.

If you need a good scent blocking product, use cyclodextrin (unscented Febreeze). Soak your clothes sin it, let them dry and go hunt, but always play the wind, keep still and be quiet, and do not get too close to the area where you expect to see deer. Give them 20 yards or so.

God bless,

T.R. Michels
Trinity Mountain Outdoors

You never understood what was going on and focused on the science of carbon reactivation without taking in to consideration everything else and if I remember right it wasn't about the product, it was personal and what caused me to disregard your claims apart from your lack of "everything else going on" you tried to invoke some kind of judgement from God upon the company because of the way they treated you. FWIW since man has been washing their clothes they have been removing stink and reactivating the clothes to absorb more stink. Stop telling people clothes with carbon can't.

I shot a nice buck a few years ago laying in it's bed not 10 yards from the stand I had to climb up in. Just because a person can't do something it doesn't mean no one can. I replace my SL when ever it's priced right but I still use the SL I bought 8 years ago with as much success as when it was new, then again I read and understood the label.

This guy laid licking himself looking right at me as I climbed, never saw me while climbing, while getting set, after turn 300 degrees and seeing it laying there, after turn back 300 and back again while knocking and drawing and even releasing sending the arrow down it's swollen neck. I sent 3 more into it's chest quickly as it struggled to flee, never left the ground. The deer was as close as the pic shows just on the other side of the tree the cam is on. The buck above was something else, a real survivor I retrieved my slug from him and another he was hit with long enough ago there was no sign at all of entry, it just sat there in it's body as if it had been there since birth. These 2 were no pups.

The clothes didn't bring down these deer, (duh) but they were part of what made it happen. Never paid over 100 for any SL item and have 3+ sets. I often were layers of it, but there's more to it than putting on clothes.

Well I'm not a newbie
 

and most of the time I don't buy nine out of ten times. Some things are 10 out of ten. The prices get me real nervous.

I'm old. I remember the before and after. Remember when camo and scent killers weren't used.

I compromised a little. Used pine needles in warm climes and leaves rubbed on clothing in colder.
Even made some homemade scent killer. Works great. Used a gallon of it on a vehicle that had smoke damage. Killed the smoke and a possible bill of $1500 disappear.

Would use the homemade scent killer if I had a similar problem.

Speaking of deer smelling stuff. I remember deer just moving easily, some 100 yards from a leaf blower, blowing everything in a parking lot. What they were smelling wasn't scent killer.

What else is there? The fact that the clothes have absorbed everything that they are going to absorb sitting in the store? Or that the amount of carbon material in the suits could never do the job they claimed it would?

Baking soda is more effective.