Ted Nugent Busted
 

The Motor City Madman just got fined $1750 for shooting a deer that he baited with C'mereDeer. Opinions ???

I would like a little more info, like maybe a link to your information. It is no secret how uncle Ted feels about hunting over bait where legal. Watch this! People might want to listen to the part about wasting our time trying to ban each others methods of hunting which is actually helping the anti hunters by not being united ourselves here in the hunting community. But nobody is perfect. My thoughts are if he did it where it was not legal then he should pay a fine and then work with the DNR to get the law changed if he wants to hunt over bait.
Live it up! Doug

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...-deer-shot-tv/

I always thought C'mereDeer was more of a scent, like doe urine. I don't know - I've never used it. Isn't it a powder?

I never thought of cmeredeer as bait. I wouldn't bait or buy cmeredeer, but never thought it was baiting to use it. Or tinks.

richwrench thanks for the link. If people are watching uncle Ted to see fair chase hunting your watching the wrong guy. Most, not all, but most hunting shows are canned now days IMO with very few exceptions. Bad judgment call on his part maybe. Really can't comment not knowing more details.
Live it up! Doug

I really couldn't care. I always watch Hank Parker hunting over C'Mere Deer and all the shows in Texas are over corn-laden senderos.

I don't know if he thought he was baiting or not. Ignorance is not an excuse and he got popped. He pays his fine and hopefully learns a lesson.

Other than that, not too big a deal to me.

The most unusual baiting ticket I have ever heard of happened to a friend of mine. About three years ago he had a small lease in south Alabama with 4 food plots on it. One afternoon he was carrying a friend in to one of his stands for an afternoon of hunting. In his truck there was a small sack of pecans in the floorboard so he poured a handful in his jacket pocket. Walking in the woods he cracked a few pecans, most of them were rancid and he discarded them as he walked. His friend got in the stand and in a couple of hours the game warden walked to the stand and wrote him a ticket for hunting over bait, the pecan hulls and the rancid ones he threw out.

he's just another high fence poacher in my book now...

Surely he fought an won that ticket. He wasn't hunting OVER anything. Makes you wonder where the game warden was!!! Unbelievable.
Live it up! Doug

Ironic for I just finished watching the Best of Spirit of the Wild w/The Nuge DVD. Such a wild, wild guy.

If it is the law, it is the law. He should just pay the fine and like someone above said, go through the proper channels to attempt to change the law if it is that much of a problem.

In my mind that illegal action is a kin to poaching. Sorry Ted, you screwed the pooch.

C'mere Deer advertises itself as an 'attactant' and not a bait. But it really is up to local law to define what is considered a bait. Maybe in some cases even salt/mineral licks are considered bait. But Uncle Ted has always made it clear that he has no problem with placing apples or corn as bait, even on his shows.

I like Ted despite his being so radical. We need folks like him to offset the radicals on the other end of the spectrum, like Sea Shepherd and PETA. He's on tour right now and I'm sure it's not worth his time to contest and make a big public case out of it. I'll continue to watch him every now and then and hope he gets a new catch phrase soon.

How is C'mere Deer considered bait? How is it any different than using Tinks?

IF it is illegal where he's hunting, then pay the fine and do the time. I am a huge fan of Uncle Ted but we all live and die by the sword.

Com on Ted... U aint gotta do that... You got more money and more time than most people... Try doin it the right way once in awhile lol

c'mere deer is just minerals..if minerals are classified as bait in your area, then its bait..just like a salt lick...

could be the game warden was watchin yall, and saw yall discarding pecans and thought yall were just tryin to get one over on him and decided it was lesson time. some game wardens are sticklers, some not so much..maybe he got in a fight with his ol lady before he went to work.

it is what it is, an infraction, pay the fine, learn from your mistakes, thats what hunting is about.
as far as poaching goes..he would of been arrested, guns and cars seized....booked and finger printed..released on OR or bond, with a court date pending...it was an infraction, minor offense...certainly not poaching imo

No matter what he does/did he is still a hunting hero in my book. He has done nothing but good for the hunting community. Very active and a very well spoken man. He has a wild character but an intelegent outlook and knows how to present his ideas. I don't care if he used that stupid crap or not, the man has done more for the hunting than anyone else in the world. Hands down an oustanding member in our hunting community.. No matter what anyone says.

Could also be a way of a Game Warden trying to make a name for himself. How many others can say they wrote Uncle Ted a ticket?

Even Uncle Ted can make a mistake
but he should have read the rules and regulation before going hunting in a sate that he did not live in every year the rules change you should all ways read the booklet you get when picking up your hunting tags to make shore you know the law if you don't get a book New York has theres on line now.not shore of any other state
Papabear

Well if Ted does work to the laws changed there, I hope he comes to Mo to help change them here next.

Ok my take on this is its illegal what he did. According to the news report he had 11 counts against and they settled for 2. For one not properly signing your hunting tag. Come on thats the first thing I do after I purchase my out of state tags. Then shooting an immature buck thats not legal. Come on know the laws of the state your hunting. We hunters need to know the law and abide by law, whether we like it or not. What Ted did was wrong. I mean come on he was sheriff in the county he lives in and a spokesperson for the NRA. Shame on Ted. Thats a black eye to the hunting community.

I don't see how it is any different than hunting next to an apple tree, really ??

Feel free to disagree but I think that Ted Nugent is a very strange and twisted person and I personally cannot watch his show or listen to him rant on about some twisted conspiracy theory without turning the channel. The dude is a wack job.

[quote=-DeerSlayer-;3665228] the man has done more for the hunting than anyone else in the world.[/quote

?????? Now that's funny.

I'll back these statements.

i'm not an Uncle Ted fan or his bloodbrother the crow.

Now they are reporting that Uncle Ted was poaching deer. I think this is going to get ugly.
Live it up! Doug

Good to see im not the only one with this opinion. My disgust for him started when I watched an episode when he unloaded on a grazing group of about a dozen very young fawns with an assault rifle and went rambling on about how he did it for the meat, and how people were wrong for saying what you can and cannot shoot. And I simply thought first your an idiot, second with one bullet you couldve killed a doe with twice as much meat as the six future does/bucks you just killed.

OMG are you kidding? go read his ridiculous book "god guns and RnR" where he claims to have killed a ram at 600yds w/ a 9mm pistol and poached a protected vulture by shooting it out of the sky w/ a 44 mag rev.:confused2: its all in there, go read it. ...you think hes well spoken???? hes and idiot! heard him on the monica crowly show last week, gave me major "dooch chills" just listening to his incoherent ass, cant believe people fall for this guys gimmick. ha "hero" try draft dodger!

i feel ya on the book, but after its printed...at least in texas...they are already changin the rules, and you have to go online to make sure....not that this was the case in uncle teds case, but could have been anyone!!!

C'mere Deer and other similar attractants and mineral licks are illegal in Alabama, yet you can ago into any Wal Mart or feed and seed and it is everywhere for sale. White salt is the only thing you can legally have in site of your stand. Yet you can hunt over a food plot planted for deer or ag fields.
Nugent is a nut, but he is one of the few celebrities that will go on any talk show and do his best to stand up for hunter/shooters rights.

Does the name NOEL FEATHER:s201: ring a bell??? I hate hunting shows for the simple fact that you never know what is done ethically or in violation of the law. To each his own, I choose not to watch.:biggrin:

+1

I have been following Nuge since the 70's (me being a rock guitar player and all) and think he's a bit over the top, but, in a good way.

I think he was either set up, or just didn't quite understand the crazy laws in California. Either way, he made a mistake and manned up to it. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

Now with that being said, I do have a few issues with Ted that go way back:

1968: Ted was with the Amboy Dukes and they released the album and title song "Journey To The Center Of Your Mind", which had water pipes, bongs, and other drug paraphenalia on the album cover. Ted claims that he never did drugs and never got involved with anything like that. Sure Ted... Sure... :s13:

Vietnam War: Ted was called up for the draft. But yet before reporting for his physical, he (as legend has it) willed himself to stay unclean and wore the same blue jeans, urinating and defecating inside his jeans for one week straight. He reported to the draft board in that condition, and they were horrified. They considered him a homeless bum and declared him 4F and threw him out. ....SICK!! :s8:

1978 marriage: Ted somehow, someway, convinced the parents of a Hawaiian native Pele Massa to let him become her legal guardian. The girl was only like 15 or so! Ted ended up marrying her, which made a lot of news headlines back then. Sheesh, Ted... What were you thinking? The girl was 15!!! :nonono2:

Draft dodging, high fence hunter with a big mouth and a bad memory. That's how I feel about ol' Uncle Ted.

I got some free tickets to a concert of his a few years back and for whatever reason, I went. That sorry concert is what he really should be arrested for.

You can't be all the things he has been in his life and then stand up for the Second Amendment a little, and all the other bullchit goes away. That's not real life.

Here is a Poll:
http://poll.fm/263tw

http://forhuntersbyhunters.wordpress.com/

Uncle Ted once said in "Ted White & Blue" that second offense DUI offenders should be executed...
Now Ted is a "bit" radical but c'mon...he isn't accountable.
I think that if Uncle Ted sneezes the wrong way in the woods (commits any infraction) he should loose his hunting privileges forver ,everywhere. There is a growing national registry...add him like a sex offender.
11 counts? What should the penalty for that Ted?
The single biggest offense that he committed was killing for the sake of financial gain. All things aside, he should be banned from the woods. I once really liked the man for the exposure that he has given to the sport but now he is a BIG BLACk EYE!

He used to be a heck of a guitar player. Now he's a hypocritical draft-dodging chicken-hawk. This "look at all he's done for hunting and gun-rights" stuff is pure Uncle Ted PR. I think he's done more harm than good. Ted, if you really want to help us then sit down, shut up and play your guitar.

Amen !
 

A-men Brotha!

Posted on NAHC by Shiloh on a similar topic.


"What this post shows as well as all similar posts on these topics is that "ethics" and "morals" regarding hunting are heavily influenced by our own upbringing in the sport/lifestyle. You get guys from PA where their State outlaws anything except flintlocks during muzzleloader season that will rail violently against even a cap-lock muzzleloader, but especially any scoped-in-line muzzlelaoder as somehowe being un-ethical, im-moral, or even a scurge placed pon humanity by Satan himself. You will have a guy in Canada where gun ownership is terribly restricted and semi-autos are outright banned for its subjects rail against any US hunter who would dare use a semi-auto hunting-style rifle for deer hunting. Meanwhile, a guy that hunts the swamps of LA cannot fathom carrying a scoped bolt-action on a deer hunt simply because it is virtually impossible to get a 1-shot kill on a deer in that thick stuff and a scoped bolt-action will prohibit him from even geting into the swamp in the first place. A guy that hunts muleys and elk in MT is used to long-range hunting with high-powered scoped bolt-actions and will scoff at any easterner that would hunt from a tree stand and ambush deer as they walk within 50 yds. Mention "coursing deer" with dogs and probably 75% of hunters will gasp and feint at the thought of it and condemn any "hunter" that they'd hear of doing this to many years in prison and loss of all hunt priviledges for life. But, culturally, this is a legal legitimate very exciting hunting method in some regions still and only doing it once can disuade the non-believers of their prejudices against it.
We are all in the same sport/lifestyle whether in TX or ME, CO, AK or Canada and need to learn to learn about eachother with a more open mind and accept that their are indeed differences. The goals are all the same - kill an animal. Umm, pardon my open honest observation, but what exactly is "ethical and humane" about our end-goal? Yes, we owe it to the game, even ourselves, to make the kill as quick and panless a possible. Yes, we owe it to our lifestyle and eachother to follow the established regional regulations. But, pouncing on another person that is doing something that you have learned based on your own regional and cultural differences is un-ethical gets nothing accomploished except to divide our already persecuted side of the debate in the face of our many enemies. It is better to step back before posting something attacking or questioning someone else's methods and just pose the statement you want to make more of a question to try to learn about it more."

Really, a lesson for ALL OF US going forward IMO !

Ethics- exactly right.
It doesn't matter where you are from - he broke the law- nothing more complicated than that.
Most importantly- he broke the game code and killed for profit (his show). In my book it doesn't matter what is an accepted hunting tactic as long as you follow the rules.
You missed:
Cheating (making it easier in his area than what other must abide by
Stealing - a deer 'nuff said
Killing for financial game
Ignoring the game code where he was hunting- with multiple offenses.
It isn't about baiting at all. It is very clear to me.

same feeling here.he acts like he is on drugs.........

You know I never have been a Ted fan. He did play one of the most memorable guitar riffs in history however.

That said, I guess it doesn't matter too much if the older >40 crowd likes him. What matters is kids love em. They love his BS talk and in your face attitude and PR. And like it or not, and most of us probably won't, but kids are the future. I think too many don't realize or can't understand this concept.

What cracks me up about forums like these, is all the sudden everybody get holyidious I call it. People have such mob mentalities and ready to pick up stones at a moments notice. When most likely most on this thread has done much worse. Maybe leaned a loaded gun on the side of thier car while getting ready. Possibly didn't unload thier ML when they put it back in the car. Possibly speeded while having rifles and ML in thier car when going hunting. Or even worse, shined thier lights in a field seeing a big buck, possibly accidently at first, but stopped and backed up to see the deer. I bet some might has even trespassed.