I dont think dragging the hunting population in as a whole as rule breakers is helping here. I do think (IMHO) that violating the game code with 11 violations for the sake of financial gain isn't really in the same class as leaning a ML up against a car by accident (even though it was wrong) unless Ted did everything that he did as an accident. He hasn't seemed to play the ignorance of the law card( which I wouldnt think is an acceptable excuse anyway).

way before this i said that ted was NUT CASE.all he is a MEAT HUNTER , no sportsman in my book.

Here we go......................


All the Anti's are taking notes & lovin this !!!


You'd think we would have learned by now ?!?!?

So just because someone is a hunter like we are, we shouldn't be critical of them if we have reason to be?? What nonsense, and has nothing to do with anti-hunters! So you wouldn't turn in anyone who violates game laws just because the anti's might exploit it? Again, total nonsense! Nugent has become well known by Americans, both hunters and non-hunters as a spokesperson for hunters and shooters. Have Bill Jordan, Craig Boddington or Chuck Adams had the same fame amongst non-hunters? No way. They are complete unknowns amongst the general public. Nugent got caught with his pants down and we are supposed to not be critical of him? If a well known spokesperson of hunting and shooting gets caught violating the law, why should anyone else who is a non-hunter or shooter trust any of us?? Just think about it for one second!

Agreed. And back to the semi-auto massacre he displayed it was not some special hunt as you may of dreamed up. It was in his back yard while he laughed hysterically doing it.

i HOPE antis do read this and see that most of us are SPORTSMAN.we dont kill off the doe for OLE BACKSTRAPS when there are few like TED NUGENT SAID.
we feed our deer, cut browse and DONT KILL OFF DOE AND FAWNS in areas where there are few like in wmu2g of pa.
we dont OUTLAW.........

yes, i hope antis do read this........we are not like TED NUGENT.......

we are CHUCK ADAMS AND FRED BEAR type hunters:deer:

Could you show me where anti's as you put it has taken notes from an internet forum and used the material to change a law. Any link would be sufficient.

Somebody could get shot if a loaded gun fell, but your sure that using cmeredeer would be much worse????? Remind me not to ever hunt in your area.

Have you ever read fred bear's book and read some of the horrible shots he made?

yes i have.i have his best bow to.BEAR KODIACK from early 60s.i also have chuck adams books.
best one from fred was called INSTINCTIVE SHOOTING.i am still trying to get it back from a friend i let use it.that book is real old.

both were my idols growing up.
fred liked the 270 and wrote on alot on that caliber.did not take notice to horrible shots but its been longtime that i have read my books.like 40 years ago.

but TED NUGENT is no where near person those 2 were.you can see i dont like him.i could see what ted was like .i dont like him and now that he is GAME LAW VIOLATOR, i really dont like him.

HEY LETS ASK TED.:D do you think we can get Ted to become a member and give his reply like tiff. did???????????:D:woot::woot:!!!

It does not sound like Ted shot a record deer over c mere deer , he paid his price , I dont think he would take a chance of cheating on camera and getting cought imo it looks to be a honest mistake . Most states have stupid laws that are probally worth breaking , just a nother way of sticking it to the man:biggrin:

I don't care for him much either, but thats besides the point and a totally different matter all together.

A man should not let emotions cloud thier judgements and thoughts. I emphasise "should not". Women lets emotions cloud their thoughts on everything.

All these articles explain how all US hunters are really "great" guys, Huh ?!?!?

http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/2010/08/ted-nugent.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wayne-..._b_687052.html


Sorry to steal this from you keepkid !!!

For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do
not understand, no explanation is possible.


I'm out now....................................

So what law has changed from these articles? People that reads HSUS and huffington was never hunters friends. Why do you think this would change it more?

I'm so sick of Ted Nugent, he hunts penned game, has a big mouth that can't shut up!!!! If you want to play, you have to pay, simply put. Weather you like the laws or not, we all have to play by the rules, he is nothing special, he is a man nothing more. And what is it with his show? nothing but endorsments one after another, seems every week he is using a different brand of equipment, dude you want to be like us all, the everyday AMERICAN then live like one, stop trying to push your products on others.

Are these articles the fault of the people on this forum who are critical of Nugent? If Nugent hadn't done what he did, they wouldn't have been written. Absolutely no one's fault here, which is what you were implying with your initial post.

Just Wondering.....
 

If it was Ted Nugent himself or his staff that actually set up the hunt/show, he maybe guilty of having complete idiots for employees. If he is running around the country on tour, speaking, NRA commitments, and who knows what else, staff may be tasked with the details of each engagement. I don't know, I'm just say'n, maybe he wasn't informed on the game laws, or "ill" informed. Just wondering. I'm sure he doesn't secure his own travel itinerary.

That's right! That's right! We can blame it on the staff! I know maybe it was Ted's stand in double that he uses for all his stunts! Yea his double actually did it > What a load of crap. How long has Ted hunted California? Years. He is smart enough to keep up with game laws where he hunts. This has nothing to do with his travel itinerary. Please get a clue before posting such nonsense.
Live it up! Doug

[quote=superstrutter;3665447]OMG!:lmao:

I think alot of hunters on this forum have done just as bad and I know of at least one that did much much worse.I have to say we are very quick to criticsize. yeah he did do wrong he plead no contest and paid the fine.Charges are what they are they can always be negotiated so they are reduced.As far as Conservation Officers
go there are alot of them that can be very very understanding and don't lay charges at all.All these officers have seen it all from hunters andthey are not out to get every hunter and chop him up.Mistakes are made in the field by a hunter on a daily basis weather it be on purpose or accident.Yeah Ted shot an illegal buck he shot it without looking at the regs and got off for it.Yeah that is illegal and a form of poaching. However the animal was recovered and meat eaten nothing to waste.This is probably what his Lawyers told the judge and prosecutor and why it got dropped. What is worse doing that what Ted did or shooting a legal buck wounding it loosing the animal only to let it suffer an ugly death and letting the meat spoil and going out the very next day and shoot another.Now this is legal but what is worse.Conservation officers know accidents happen and if you are upfront with them you will get a huge verbal lecture nave a small fine that is deserved but I have been told by them if you retrieve the animal and not let the meat waste they are more lenient than making a mistake and leaving it in the bush.That's when they get mad and are out for your head.Ted did make mistakes But unlike alot of hunters did not leave it there to rot.

I just saw this but read my way through it. Quite interesting. I agree with BOWHUNTERCOP, those guys on T.V. and in the magazines are so out of touch with the average hunter that I really don't pay attention to them anymore. I doubt anybody over 40 is lily white when it comes to game laws, but the majority of infractions were probably unintentional with us. You don't "accidentally" bait deer. Reminds me of a time I was checking fox traps during bow season. I saw a guy in the woods and he was acting suspicious. He kept standing up and looking around and then back down on his knee. Turns out it was a guy that lived down the road from me putting scent out for deer. (illegal at the time in my state) He was also a well known outdoors writer. He never saw me and I never said anything, but I guess I should have. I have seen a lot of illegal things over the years and now I wonder if I should have turned them in. I guess if you stand by and watch instead of raising cane like the people on this forum, you are no better than the guy breaking the law. Ted Nugent, Noel Feather, Don Lewis, and the rest are no better than us, put it to them.

whatthe.......
 

KS you seem angry. As far as me "blaming" anybody, I haven't. I asked some questions. As for getting a clue, well...I haven't had a chance to read Nugents statements to the investigators or prosecutor as of yet. You? Didn't get a chance to read the guides statement (licensed?) yet either. I don't know what "a stunt double" has to do with the questions I posed in my post. The travel itinerary was lost I guess. But get a clue over those questions? Smile!!!! Have fun!!!:happy0001:

Just Wondering-- are you going to go hunting somewhere, say with a hunting buddy who happen to set the whole thing up and not inform yourself of the game laws where your hunt is taking place? So you just might be guilty of having a complete idiot for a hunting buddy. See what utter nonsense your comment was. No anger at all just wondering where the common sense is in your statement. You trying to say he didn't know he was in California because he had "complete idiots for employees"? Your words not mine. Him and the guide were both fined. Thanks for the comment! You might be well on your way to getting a clue.
Live it up! Doug

Thank you Bigcountry. I'm pretty tired of that lame ass myth/theory myself. As if some anti is out there cruising the internet and comes across a thread where hunters disagree on an issue and jumps up screaming "EUREKA!!!!!!" I've found it!!! The secret ultimate weapon we've been searching for!!!! Now all I have to do to end hunting is take this information and.......and......wait a minute.......aw heck there isn't a d### thing I can do with this. LOL!

I don't care what antis think because their minds are made up about hunting anyway. But what I would hope that the neutral people out there think if they encounter a thread like this is as follows.

1. That we hunters police our own.

2. That we have ethics and a moral code we stand by.

3. That we put no one above the law even if it's someone famous that claims he's one of us.

4. And last but certainly not least that Ted Nugent (who most neutral people despise) is not now nor ever has been my leader in any way.

i see both sides...................:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn ::popcorn::popcorn:

TOPIC CLOSED


Oh that's for Lee and Tiffiny im sorry...

I'm trying real hard to care................nope, can't do it.

He got his nick name the "wack master" because he is a Wack O ...to damn gung ho for me!

dd

yea i love the dudes coment i just had some nuts in my pocket,,,lol..kinda like a guy takeing a 5lb bag of apples just for a snack,,,sorry dude sounds way toooo fishy to me,,,lol..ill bet ol ted said he was keeping it in case he got lost and it would save his life..lol people with money always think the law dont pertain to them while spouting
out the law on tv,,i love it pull his liecence for three years and yank his guns,,

oh yea ps just like the coment he made about takeing 100 yard head shots with a bow once,,,yea a real sportsman...what a joke

I have to say, I like the guy. Should he have known what he was doing? yes. But You can't tell me that a guy like that would ever knowingly risk his reputation. He owned up to it, and I would like to know more about this whole shooting of to young of a deer. I can't find a pick of it at all so it's tough to tell. And further more, he has gone on record a ton of times claiming "no drugs".....yada yada.. I for one think if he has done them some where along the lines someone would blow him in and call him out.

I guess ya got me there....
 

When I looked at my day planner, and then looked at his posted schedule, well, started thinking I might need a PR person to handle all my arrangements, let alone staff to run all my other ventures and engagements. Excellent comparison, that me and my buddy hunting trip thingy. Is it his fault at the end of the day, of course, he's the one shooting. They even listed they used Cmer Deer in the credits. I mentioned travel itinerary for a reason earlier, I happen to know a individual that used to handle that for him back in the day. Well gotta go, chopper on the pad, got a radio gig in Cleveland, then off to another in Nashville before I get on my jet to Montana, ETA 5AM, in the stand by 630, what a grind. Take care KS:s4:

LOL tight, you really gave me a good laugh. I'm not saying the guy isn't busy, maybe he needs to slow down enough to know what is going on, and yea he lives a different life than most. Still if you are going to be the poster boy for the hunting community you MUST, at all costs and at all times, keep your stuff wired tight, if you know what I mean. Bad example for the young folk. Oh well this is just an online forum we are not going to solve the worlds problems here. Don't let the grind get to ya!;)
Live it up! Doug

Send me a bag or two blood brother.:party0007:

O Ted what a guy sometimes I think he hurts our cause and sometimes he helps it. I'm still confused on that one. But he's only human so it happens.

The Guy is so radical that people think he's high on something. I don't care for his insanity! But this is America.

I guess he is too over the top for me .... thought his shows were a little nutty most of the time . He doesn't speak for all sportsman that's evident . I am not familiar with California laws nor Texas or his home state but the guy always seems to have a quiver full of arrows and not afraid to use all of them . Now no matter how we try to dress up his actions they will never forget or forgive this one discretion.Truthfully its time to head back to the ranch spend time with his wife and dogs ... let somebody else pick up the torch .Years back i remember another up and comer to the outdoors show host that got burned..... He is back on many shows and endorses products for nationally renowned catalogs. Maybe in a few years Ted can get it back together but for now he is a liability to the NRA and sportsman as a whole.

Actually, he WAS hunting over bait; the FOOD PLOT. In alot of places, " Baiting" is considered: any food source etc., placed in an area for the sole purpose of attracting game animals.

Anyone that talks that much makes me nervous.