He didn't get busted because of what he was doing. He got busted because of who he was. I don't use come'ere deer. Baiting aint legal in my state. Don't think I'd use it if I could because I just personally don't think its right. Not trying to offend but just my opinion.

Ted got busted because of who he was. All this stuff in the article about shooting an immature deer over bait. They probably wouldn't have been watching if it hadn't been Ted. And I just looked at the California DNR regulations and they call for atleast a forked horn (which I take to mean a spike buck) for a legal kill. Ted did the right thing. He was caught. He pleaded no contest to a bs charge and paid his fine. Thats all you can ask. Bad luck ted. Take your slap on the wrist and go on about your way.

As for all hunts being fenced. They've been doing it for years in hunting and fishing shows. One guy I don't think does it like that is Tred Barta. Check out his show.

Tred Barta is only able to do some limited hunting now. He had a really bad spinal stroke and is wheelchair bound.

He admitted to the mistake, pled no contest, paid his fine and didn't whine about it. I say he handled it like a man.

Game laws and their interpretation differ in many states and sometimes lead to confusion by the hunter. It's not like he was shooting elk from a helicopter or something serious like that. I think that calling him a poacher is excessive. He paid his fine, he's square with the state of California that should end it.

I dare say that everyone calling him a "poacher" here would be hard pressed to recite from memory, every single game law in their state. So, him not knowing that cmeredeer, or whatever it was, would be classified as bait is a forgivable sin, not a death sentence.

I still got your back Uncle Ted. All us blood brothers and hunters need to stick together in times like these. Otherwise the job of the anti-hunters and bush-hippies is that much easier. He got caught, for whatever reason, paid his fine and went on with life. Everyone makes mistakes, makes us human. I doubt if he knew he was breaking the law he would have continued, that would disrespect and demean everything he claims to believe in.

If I'm reading the news reports correctly, Nugent was cited for taking a deer over bait, but it was the ranch owner who put out the C'mere Deer. Given the fact that he hunts all over the U.S., and around the world, it seems reasonable to me that Nugent would rely on the ranch owner regarding what is and what isn't legal in that location. Rules sometimes vary not just state to state, but, county to county.

From Ted's website:

Plead no contest to 2 because they would drop the other 7.
Anyone eagerly seeking and embracing the role of sportmans spokesman and super law and order/no excuses has the responsibility to know the rules and abide by them to the letter. No "too busy" or "someone elses job" excuses. He admitted nothing until caught.

Regulations call for at least a forked antler. A spike is not a forked antlered deer, regardless of what you take to mean. Your saying Ted did the right thing by knowingly shooting a buck he knew was illegal? Maybe it's a stupid law in your opinion, but it is the law.

we go hunting to other states,DONT WE READ RULES AND KNOW WHAT IS LEGAL?we are busy too.do we let someone else do something illegal?
no we dont. I WOULD NOT HUNT WITH PERSON LIKE THAT.to say ,oh someone else did it and i should have known.

i dont believe that stuff.just like chaney saying he was not drunk and shot lawyer.the real truth they were ROAD HUNTING ,drinking and jumped out to shoot a bird and lawyer got it.

to say that lawyer was shot at 30 yds etc, I DONT BY THAT ALSO.

IMO Ted Nugent has pushed way more people away from hunting than he has brought to hunting. I get embarrassed just watching his crazy a** on TV. Its a shame how Wadell and others kiss his butt too.

+1 It is a darned shame how so many hunters are looking up to this guy. For what, I will never know. Doesn't say much for many hunters out there that is for sure. I guess they like the barbarian image Nugent helps promote. Absolutely NO way is this good for hunting. Then we worry about anti-hunters and such. No need, in my opinion. Just keep putting out the image that we are all one step above cave men and we will do ourselves in.

X's 2 also if he wants to be a leader of the hunting and shooting sportsmen , he must hold himself to a higher standard.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse! What he did is unethical and against the law. Don't make excuses for Ted.:busted::s8::s201::s11:

Still trying to care..................I got nothing.

I think I saw this episode. He shoots two bucks in the show. Both horrible shots. One in the gut and the other in the ham if I remember correctly.

i'm not a nuge fan

part of me like his challenge of the establishment - but to do it on camera, for personal gain, doesn't sit well with me.

sorry but Ted appeals to the stereotypical No-Holds-Barred redneck-hunter and the guy that doesn't think that the government should dictate specifically how we hunt. His popularity has kind of forced him to walk this line - and a "violation" was bound to come. I'm sure he's not surprised, ort worried.

That said -
I was at Gander Mountain tonight trying to get a last minute clover to fill out a plot I'm planting this weekend - and I was saddened by a WHOLE RACK of minerals, "the Rock", some Lolipop thing, C'mere deer, and another 1/2 dozen attractants - which are COMPLETELY illegal to use in NY (but apparently not illegal to sell). Lots of signs were around to remind "hunters" that these products might be considered illegal to use in NY under the current game laws. But honestly - they had more "attractants" for sale than seed. As a sales manager in another completely different industry - I can tell you that UNDOUBTABLY more attractants were for sale than seed - because THEY SELL MORE!!!!! and likley make more profits as a result. Sad for me really. - no one cares in NY -the laws aren't hardly ever enforced-why have them at all??

So - whatever Ted - no one apparently cares. Hunt however you want.?

FH

I don't get cable or satellite, so I only saw him through a video tape I have of him hunting... that and know a little of him through write-ups, a video and the hunting magazines.

I'm willing to bet quite a bit of my own money that many of you **** **** haven't done chit compared to Nuge in regards to helping the hunting community and it sickens me to see a bunch of ****'* hammer him like you're all high and mighty. Well, I got something for yah and that is unless you've reached DEEP into your own pockets and shelled out some real coin and done as much as Ted, then maybe you have a leg to stand on when you knock on him... but until then, shut the **** up.

iSnipe

[quote=Arrowmaster;3665381..........What Ted did was wrong. I mean come on he was sheriff in the county he lives in and a spokesperson for the NRA. Shame on Ted. Thats a black eye to the hunting community.[/quote]


X3:busted::busted:. IMHO, I have always rated him low as a HUNTER, but appears to be a fairly well accomplished slayer.

LMAO!! Your kidding, right?:rolleye0011::rolleye0011:

Hey, maybe the guy is Chinese and uses chopsticks as his "fork"...:)

It is a fork if you count the hair and bone between the points.:s2: Right? Well let me see, they are connected.:s1:

Snipe, settle down.:biggrin: So is it ok to violate because you (Ted)do a lot for the hunting community???You have to admit that the Ted is pretty Radical about his ways of hunting. Alot of hunters don't care for the man. It is great what he does for hunting but, the laws are for everyone, even Ted. Ted sets himself up for all the neg. comments by being well known by the hunting world and then getting caught for violating. That comes with the territory,When a person who is in the lime light gets caught violating,:busted: it gives hunting (and him) black eye.:)

It's not like Ted is running from this. He manned up, admitted he was wrong, apologized, and paid the fine...

From his website:

No wonder you love Nugent. You come from the same school of profanity as he does. Some of you will defend him until no end! I feel sorry for you boys. You apparently have NO idea how a human being should act and carry themselves in front of others. Acting like a barbarian gets you NOWHERE in this world, this I can assure you!

Now, to be fair... I've never heard profanity on Spirit of the Wild, and, the guy is a rock star, acting like a "barbarian" is a role he plays (and I would say that the joy on his face when he takes game is no more barbaric than that look of bloodthirsty insanity that crosses Stan Potts' face when he makes a kill.... YES!!!!) and, playing that role got Ted millions of dollars, ranches in Michigan and Texas, and the ability to hunt anywhere in the world he wants to hunt.... Perhaps you should qualify your statement to "Acting like a barbarian gets you NOWHERE in this world, unless you play a really mean guitar...":biggrin:

He manned up????
He got busted! He admitted he was wrong, BECAUSE HE WAS.
He paid the fine, because HE HAD TO!
I don't see your point, how is he going to run from it, become a fugitive????

He's nothing but a black eye on the whole hunting community.

Geeze dude... "Running from it" is a metaphor.

He could have played it like a typical Democrat... "It was the guide's (Bush's) fault"

Instead, he said "I should have been better informed. I take full responsibility."

I got the metaphor, but when you're breaking game laws on television, there is'nt much else you can say.

So are you telling us that we can all act like barbarians around people(since it made Nugent a rock star after all!), and at the same time tell them that we are also hunters?? Yeah, that will get us respect from the many people out there who know very little about hunting and hunters. Always better to act like a civilized human being if you want some respect and have folks take you seriously. If you have long shaggy hair and a crazed look on your face you are starting out with two strikes against you from the get go. I'm really sorry you boys can't seem to figure this out. Take any game warden or cop out there. I will bet you any money that they would be more suspicious of someone who looks like Nugent before they would someone else who is clean cut and looks like a half-way decent human being. If you look uncivilized, chances are reasonable that you actually may not be.

He COULD have said "I was on this guy's ranch, he put out the C'mere Deer. He told me it was OK to use the C'mere Deer. I assumed that he knew the rules applicable to his ranch. I understand that there is strict liability for the violation and I'm paying the fine, but it was his fault." That's a little different from "I take full responsibility."

No, not all of us. It wasn't just "acting like a barbarian" that made Nugent a rock star. How well do you play the guitar?

I'm not sure that barbarian is the right word. What is it that he does, precisely, that seems "barbaric" or "uncivilized" to you? You've cited "long hair" and a "crazed look." Does it have to be those two in combination? Because the look Stan Potts gets is WAAAAY more "crazed" than any I've ever seen on Ted's. To me, Ted's "crazed look" is more akin to unrestrained joy, kinda like a kid in a toy store. And those good ol' boys on Duck Commander/Buck Commander are quite a bit shaggier than most any rocker I've ever seen...

For your information, I studied classical guitar playing a good many years. A classical player could play circles around ANY rock star, most of whom can't even read music.

The difference between Nugent and Potts or any other hunter you may see on hunting shows is that NUGENT is known by many these days, and not only by hunters. Does the general public know Potts or your duck commanders, Bill Jordan, Craig Boddington?? NO way! Don't matter one iota what these guys look like. Nugent has chosen himself to be a spokesman for hunters and gun-owners and goes on non-hunting TV and radio programs that the rest of society watches ranting and raving his views. If you think that puts us in good standing with the non-hunting and non-shooting public, many of whom are NOT necessarily anti-hunting or anti-gun either, then you are obviously in need of a reality check and I surely won't waste my time trying to convince you otherwise.

Not sure how everyone else feels, but if you have the privilege to hunt, and hunt on television, you are representing all hunters...it's not the acting & the hair, or his overall personality that brings me to this, but it's the fact that he got caught breaking the law....

Either way, he's representing all hunters when having his own show. And getting caught breaking the law, especially being a public figure, doesn't look good among the hunting community, especially the pros with other shows (wonder how they feel).

It also starts large arguments about who's fault it was, and guys posting in a public forum what they read on another news site (that's why I love the USA). The fact is, no one was there, & he did get caught. No one here knows what or how it all took place from a personal stand point.

This really reminds me of baseball. A large name in the sport gets caught raises eyebrows for everyone else. I wonder how other Pro Staffers feel. The ones that are out there doing things within the law? I also don't like animal rights activists getting any other excuses...

Nugent illegal again on his show while in illinois
 

the other evening he was hunting in Il with out required BLAZE ORANGE hat and improper "camo" orange vest on maybe he will get another slap on the wrist. It's an embarrassment to all hunters for him to do this on camera!:s12:sad:

Whatever, dingleberry.

They don't have the smilie here I have for you, so invision one and take it to heart.

iSnipe

Really?? I gotta see that. If it was'nt on some high fenced property, then he truly is an idiot.

nugent illegal again on his show while in illinois
 

He was hunting from a shoot house with blaze camo vest and used a slug gun but didnt have a blaze hat on when he took the shot

i personally don't see the problem with baiting. a large part of hunting is controlling the population so carrying capacity isn't reached, as this would result in a less healthy population as whole. it's simple ecology with the aid of bait. just because you put out corn or c'mere deer, doesn't mean you'll automatically kill a deer over it, it just increases your chances. i'm just a dumb hick from eastern nc, so naturally i probably see things differently than a lot of people.

also, let me state, that i do not personally bait very often. not saying i haven't, but it gets expensive. i've killed many more deer without the aid of bait than i have with it. i just don't have a problem with others baiting.

Guessing this will go on for awhile. Hope that Bill Jordan is on the up and up.

Okay. I'ma move on. Yal should to. Sight in both rifles and bows and start scouting out your area instead of shootin the motor city mad man...LOLOL oops need a space in there. Also whats the best camo in your honest opinon???????

Ted Nugent
 

knowing the laws were you hunt is the issue. It's basic sportsmanship

hahahaha i love stan potts though. that man loves to hunt, he gets me pumped. ......plus i cant believe you guys have ranted for 12 pages about ted nugent. hahahaha. yeah i hope you kind of feel dumb when you sit back and realize you sat on your computers and ranted that long about some tool you either love or hate but equally will never even meet. anyways. yeah stan potts, your the man.