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frontier gander 11-04-2006 07:30 PM

RE: bad dog(s)!!
 
What if it was a trophy deer? Give me a freakin break! Any real hunter knows that a trophy is a deer that provides your family with meat. If you are that sorry of a hunter lostcreeker and think that a deer with a huge rack is what makes it a trophy, you are a very sad excuse as a hunter. This has nothing to do with if it WERE an trophy buck. There were other ways to resolve this problem and out of anger, the dogs were shot. Hell, ive had other hunters screw up my hunt, ive had shy deer scare off other deer, ive had the sound of a crow scare off deer in my area. But that is a very very poor response from u, as a hunter. What if it was a trophy deer.. My god, what a sorry piss poor response.

lostcreeker1786 11-04-2006 07:46 PM

RE: bad dog(s)!!
 
Just wondering, if you had a big buck scared off from you for something that you didn't cause,such as a dog,would you fix the problem or just say "Oh well, hope I get that big boy next time."? If it was another hunter, in my case, I would ask him what he was doing on my land. Sorry for offending you, the ethical overlooker of all hunting everywhere.

LeftyBuckmaster 11-04-2006 07:51 PM

RE: bad dog(s)!!
 
this is a common problem in many areas of the US many areas have what are called feral dogs that ran away from their owners or were left on the side of the road by their lazy owners who could not take care of them when these dogs create a pack they become dangerous and are not like a wild animal just like domesticated cats which can also become feral are not wildlife such animals do not kill just to survive like a wolf or coyote who will clean the meat almost completely off the bone the feral animals kill for fun and play with the animal before they kill it and then they end up wasting most of the meat because killing is a game to them I took a tour of a sheep farm near indianapolis about a week ago and he said that being close to town they have had problems in the past with dogs that get left by the side of the road and become feral then they will attack the whole herd where as a coyote will attack just one animal the dog will injure as many sheep as possible because killing is a game to them so if u go and consider coyotes and wolves to dogs you need to get the facts straight on the difference in species this guy apparently can tell the difference between the feral dogs because many times they are mangey and dont have collars and the neighbors pets
Last fall during gun season i was hunting in my uncles woods and his neighbors dogs chased some deer through i knew whose they were so i didnt shoot if i had never seen them before i would have shot them instead of giving them a warning shot and it would have been over for them and then i chased them off the property and talked to the neighbor and havent seen the dogs in the woods since so i figured it worked

pahntr760 11-04-2006 07:55 PM

RE: bad dog(s)!!
 

ORIGINAL: LeftyBuckmaster

this is a common problem in many areas of the US many areas have what are called feral dogs that ran away from their owners or were left on the side of the road by their lazy owners who could not take care of them
I had this problem in PA. Always, seeing mangy, and usually rabid dogs running deer. Shot 'em every time i could. Pets, no definatley not!!!

frontier gander 11-04-2006 08:02 PM

RE: bad dog(s)!!
 
Ive had deer scared off by other hunters and by barking dogs. Sure i get upset but im not about to start unleashing bullets or arrows in anger. I've seen you type of hunters on the news. Bow hunter shoots dog, dog survives. This is what will ruin ALL of us. Doesnt matter if the dog has a collar or not. I'll bet you anything, there are more bunny hungers with more money to than all of us hunters that are working hard to bring out all these dog shootings by hunters. Hell man, you guys are sitting here typing this crap and there could be all kinds of bunny hungers sitting here reading this and getting fuel for their story. You do something like this, you keep your mouth shut. Simple as that. You're either going to get yourself in trouble by opening your mouth to other hunters and have them turn their backs on you and disagree with you or you're going to just feed those bunny hungers more stories they can get out to the public. You guys seem proud that you shot dogs, Did you take a pic with them, holding them by the ears and then have the heads mounted too? :D:D
You shoot any domestic animal, you're going to get mixed responses. Play it safe and keep the trap shut.

Slackdaddy 11-04-2006 08:09 PM

RE: bad dog(s)!!
 
Sheesh, I may as well throw in My 2 cents.
1st the pics of the lab, that started out as it was shot on the owners property, then on the owners property or the ajoining land, then, maybe on the owners property or the ajoining PUBLIC land.
So owner was letting his dog run deer on public hunting land.

I hunt public land that is surrounded by McMansions, It is DNR land set aside for hunting, the only one in the county, it is not a play ground for the urban transplants to ride their 4 weelers and let there dogs run deer.

I would not shoot the dog myself, but I DONOT blame a hunter for shooting a dog that is running deer, public or private HUNTING land,
THe blame falls on the dog owner for 1) letting his dog roam on hunting land, 2) raising a dog that runs deer.
If it is running deer, it is only a matter of time till it runs some stock or chickens
Sometimes things are learned the hard way when You move to the country from the city.

Slack

lostcreeker1786 11-04-2006 08:12 PM

RE: bad dog(s)!!
 
I agree with that. Keeping your mouth shut is an all- around solution for all of life's problems. I to hunt for meat, but I try to get it out of the way early in the season with my bow or muzzleloader before the rut kicks in. Don't get me wrong, I'll shoot a doe during the late rifle and muzzleloading, but my motto during rifle season is "you don't go bass fishing hoping to catch a bluegill."

frontier gander 11-04-2006 08:37 PM

RE: bad dog(s)!!
 
Well, dont get me wrong guys. Im not trying to make any enemys on here but i really dont think this topic was fit for this forum. If you want to shoot dogs, Go right ahead. It would be best if you just kept it to yourself. Its nothing really to be proud of or a good topic to talk about.

Jon

TimberCreek 11-04-2006 09:30 PM

RE: bad dog(s)!!
 

ORIGINAL: BChunter88

maybe i misunderstood something but it sounds like u were putitng yourself in harms way with ur daughter to protect a fawn? and then shot the dogs in self defense? how about not aproaching the pack of dogs.... its not your responsibility to protect fawns thats the way of nature some animals die. You keep saying you can protect yourself and your property but that deer isnt your property and you put yourself in danger its not like the dogs were out hunting you they were just protecting their kill



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What? Huh?Guess I should have told you my life's story, Daughter is 27 and can hunt and shoot as good as me. You were not there in that situation. If you have ever heard a fawn screaming it is a weird sound and we did not know what it was until we came up on them. And yes I investigate things happening on my land. I'm 49, worked hard all my life to earn my land sodon't bother to tell me what to do on my property I won't listen to you anyway.

BChunter88 11-04-2006 11:18 PM

RE: bad dog(s)!!
 



lol im not trying to pick a fight with you. i somewhat misunderstood what happened. lol and i never said u didnt work for your land. all im saying is that the dogs killed something and obviously wanted to protect their kill or atleast they were in the process of killing it. anyways this is getting off topic so im not gunna reply to this post anymore.


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