Drawing the Line III
#71
RE: Drawing the Line III
ORIGINAL: NY Bowhunter
What's the need for the fence then?
There are high fence ranches in Texas that are so big that deer can live their whole lives without ever coming withinsight of the fence. But you're right. Regardless of the size of the property, those are just pets. No way they could be wild, even though they have no idea they are enclosed and they behave exactly the same way as if there had been no enclosure.
allNew Yorkers are pompous, self-righteous, holier-than-thou, know-it-alls.
#73
RE: Drawing the Line III
For one thing, it keeps out trespassers. At the ranch I hunt, we regularly have folks cross the low-fence and hunt our blinds on weekdays when they know the tenants aren't around
Again it goes back to crerating an un-fair advantage from "hunters" who otherwise would probably not hunt because of the effort required and the normally low success rate.
People are free to hunt however they want, but I do not have to accept it or embrace it.
#75
RE: Drawing the Line III
I am trying to understand the legality and ethics of high fences beyond the issue of fair chase. I mean, wild game is supposed to be a free-ranging public resource. Isn't it pushing it somewhat if the animals are restricted? I guess it would be perfectly fine if one could fence a large area that had no deer in it and then introduce deer that they purchased from a breeder. Beyond that, I don't know. I do know that in southern Illinois, ifpeople tried to high fence their land to trap wild deer on it for their own use, the local hardware stores would sell out of bolt cutters very quickly.Folks would also get downright dyslexic when it came to reading the POSTED signs. Before folks start jumping my case, i am notcondoning any of that, I'm justtelling it like it is.
#76
RE: Drawing the Line III
With all due respect, what kind of fence can keep out a human trespasser?
Here's my answer:None. Unless you're putting up a maximum-security federal penitentiary-esque razorwire setup with high voltage and shooting towers, you can't keep trespassers out. If they want in there, and they suspect they'll get away with it - they'll get inside.
You can't b.s. me. The fence is to keep all the deer hoarded inside, not to keep people out.
I guess the point of the initial post was to argue that fenced-in deer are not "wild animals," they're livestock. That's a pretty sad commentary on people and their lust to shoot things, but it's true. To each his own, I guess. They make the bed that they have to sleep in.
Here's my answer:None. Unless you're putting up a maximum-security federal penitentiary-esque razorwire setup with high voltage and shooting towers, you can't keep trespassers out. If they want in there, and they suspect they'll get away with it - they'll get inside.
You can't b.s. me. The fence is to keep all the deer hoarded inside, not to keep people out.
I guess the point of the initial post was to argue that fenced-in deer are not "wild animals," they're livestock. That's a pretty sad commentary on people and their lust to shoot things, but it's true. To each his own, I guess. They make the bed that they have to sleep in.
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