Draw Weight Phenomenom
02-06-2008, 12:32 PM
#11
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Draw Weight Phenomenom
ORIGINAL: LBR
Mybet is a bow designed around a specifc core/material will work better than just adding that particular material to a given design.
Mybet is a bow designed around a specifc core/material will work better than just adding that particular material to a given design.
01-20-2009, 05:16 AM
#12
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Draw Weight Phenomenom
ORIGINAL: LBR
It is a weird thing. The DFC has a part to play, for sure......but even bows that show a gain of 2-3 lbs per inch on a scale can feel different. One thing I've noticed--every bow I've ever drawn that had carbon in the limbs felt heavier, or at least stiffer, to me. Some had it in the core, some on the outside to replace the glass, one I drew was a whole lot worse than any other, another I drew it wasn't very noticeable........but that's been my perception with every one of them. Dad-gumed if I know what does it.
Chad
It is a weird thing. The DFC has a part to play, for sure......but even bows that show a gain of 2-3 lbs per inch on a scale can feel different. One thing I've noticed--every bow I've ever drawn that had carbon in the limbs felt heavier, or at least stiffer, to me. Some had it in the core, some on the outside to replace the glass, one I drew was a whole lot worse than any other, another I drew it wasn't very noticeable........but that's been my perception with every one of them. Dad-gumed if I know what does it.
Chad
So I guess I have to agree with you there Chad.
So the question then becomes do you get a bow that costs hundreds extra to get a little more performance with the stiffer drawing carbon and a lighter draw weight, or you get a bow with a few extra pounds that feels about the same drawing weight as the carbon bow that gets the same performance.
01-20-2009, 05:52 AM
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Boone & Crockett
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RE: Draw Weight Phenomenom
So the question then becomes do you get a bow that costs hundreds extra to get a little more performance with the stiffer drawing carbon and a lighter draw weight, or you get a bow with a few extra pounds that feels about the same drawing weight as the carbon bow that gets the same performance.
I've asked that question a few times on different sites, but get referred to as pretty much everything but smart and honest when I did--so I just gave up on it.
I know the scales won't lie, but niether do my shoulders.I can't say why one feels stiffer than the other, but I know some do.
Chad
01-20-2009, 07:59 AM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: Draw Weight Phenomenom
From the research I have done.
There is no real added performance bennefit from adding carbon to the limbs maybe 2 or 3fps.
But like Chad said the draw back is a stiffer drawing bow.
There is no real added performance bennefit from adding carbon to the limbs maybe 2 or 3fps.
But like Chad said the draw back is a stiffer drawing bow.
01-20-2009, 11:04 AM
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RE: Draw Weight Phenomenom
I've asked that question a few times on different sites, but get referred to as pretty much everything but smart and honest when I did--so I just gave up on it.
01-20-2009, 11:49 AM
#16
Boone & Crockett
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RE: Draw Weight Phenomenom
Seems I can't say "thank you" without getting in trouble. Got a warning just today on a different site for saying this:
"Learning to shoot is a never-ending process. Heck, there's folks that have written books who's knowledge is severly lacking in some areas.
"
Oh well......I hope if I were to ever play favorites like that, someone kicks me squarely in the........rear.[:@]
Chad
"Learning to shoot is a never-ending process. Heck, there's folks that have written books who's knowledge is severly lacking in some areas.
"Oh well......I hope if I were to ever play favorites like that, someone kicks me squarely in the........rear.[:@]
Chad
01-20-2009, 06:18 PM
#17
Spike
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RE: Draw Weight Phenomenom
I believe what you may be talking about is preload, and is a function in all bow designs,those thathave more tend to be faster,and seem to pull harder...those with less seem to be slower, and pull easier.......even though each are the same poundage at the same final draw length.
01-21-2009, 05:15 AM
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RE: Draw Weight Phenomenom
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I believe what you may be talking about is preload, and is a function in all bow designs,those thathave more tend to be faster,and seem to pull harder...those with less seem to be slower, and pull easier.......even though each are the same poundage at the same final draw length.
I believe what you may be talking about is preload, and is a function in all bow designs,those thathave more tend to be faster,and seem to pull harder...those with less seem to be slower, and pull easier.......even though each are the same poundage at the same final draw length.
What would be very interesting to do would be to have two bows with the exact same draw force curve. One of the bows with carbon on the back and belly and one all wood limbs and compare.
01-21-2009, 11:37 AM
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RE: Draw Weight Phenomenom
Preload does change how they feel, but I've drawn bows with no carbon that had a lot of preload and with carbon that didn't have as much preload. Don't know how to explain it, just every bow I've draw with carbon in the limbs felt heavier than it was marked--one felt a LOT heavier than marked.
Chad
Chad
