I agree - but for how long, and IMO HC doesn't have the bow.

even the best engines in the world, you redline them every shift, and they will break.

Ossage, with all due respect, that is complete and utter nonsense. When IBO came out with that 5 grains per pound rule, the only people that opposed it were the idiots that were shooting well under that. Everyone else welcomed it with open arms because they were tired of dodging projectiles that once were parts of some numbnut's bow.

People got tired of seeing blood and gore every time they went to a shoot. People got tired of seeing people with their teeth knocked out by busted risers. People got tired of seeing friends forced to quit archery altogether because of loosing eyes or having nerves in their arms and wrists severed by jagged shards of what used to be glass and carbon limbs.

And now, with ambulance chasing lawyers hiding behind every bush, clubs have to give deep thought to liability concerns. Anyone shooting less than AMO minimum arrow weight recommendations for their draw length, draw weight and bow design will not be welcome at our club.

I saw the whole HCA set-up at the Harrisburg,PA.show,even shot the carbon bow with the Carbon Rev.arrows-30in.draw@70lbs,235gr.totol arrow weight--372fps.Let's put it this way,it was interesting(the speed and such),but am I going to chance blowing up my LX?,not a chance!!Sometimes,speed kills,and I'm not talking about game...Bob

i here alot of bad thing about hc bows i not i big fan of them but 3 of my buddies shoot them one is that all carbon bow he loves it never had a problem with it another guy has a four runner and had it for 4 years and no problem same with the other guy.. i guess if you dont shoot it dont knock it[:@]. i have a bow tech but i dont say mathews suck or parker or whatever

these arrow are working just fine for me . I use them for 3d shoots
I have them set up with a 85g tip & 3" vanes & 3" feathers !/2 dos. of each, arrows are speed pro max. I do use a HCA TSS bow
set a little over 60#s ( my bow at 7029 will shoot 225g arrow at 350fps)
If you don't have a HCA you need to stay to mfg. recommendations
with a 100g tip it is easy to get a 300g arrow to use with a 60# bow & you will be very impressed with that set up
I have a friend shooting a Mathews Legacy ? at 60#s 27.5 " draw shooting gt arrows at 258fps & with the speed pro max arrows it is shooting 289fps both arrow with a 100g tip
(not slamming gt arrows)
Gregg

Gregg, for your sake, I hope your bow never explodes on you. That sure would be a hard way to learn a lesson!

I've been shooting alot of HCA bows at extreme speeds & yet to have one problem. (mostly for demonstraions ) people really want to see the bows at these speeds. & the first thing they say is that bow is quiet & 2nd is how fast was that .
I set most of my bow a 60 t0 65# for a very nice shooting set up.
thanks for the concern. the way I look at it, why pull 70#s when you can achieve the same result at 60#s & that is what this arrow will do
Gregg

c4extrem

Do you realize that you are not legal on any IBO or ASA shoot you go to so you are disqualified before you ever turn in your scorecard.Shoot what you want,I really don't care, but be aware of the rules.


oneidaeagle,I really don't think people are getting on HCA too bad because their problems are a matter of record and fact.They are obviously trying to change their immage.It may or may not be too late but I hope they know what they are doing for the sake of those that choose to shoot those extremely light arrows.

TFOX
I just go to the local league shoot on the weekends & shoot the hunter class. just to keep up my skills & to have a little fun. I'll have to go out in the shop & see if I can get that arrow to go that slow
Gregg
ps I would like to try one of these shoots IBO or ASA is there a site I can get a scheduel for WI.

The ASA websight is www.asaarchery.com but they have a speed limit of 280 fps in most classes but a 260 fps speed limit for the hunter class.Quess you need to get some serious weight added to your arrows for those kinds of speeds.Do it early so you will learn how to judge yardage because those guys can flat out judge.


Not sure about the IBO web site.Just do a search.There board is on this site.Scroll down in the forum categories. They have a 5 gr /pound rule and if you choose to shoot lighter than that,you have a 280 fps speed limit.You must claim which category before they check you.