Though I do agree that it was a gamble I must also admit that I cannot really think of any other company that could have probably pulled it off simply because of that "faithful following". Mathews maybe as they do have a loyal following but then again they would be shooting themselves in the foot. Hoyt is respected not only for quality designs but also innovativeness with their devotion to TEC risers and split limbs. They were probably the only company "in the right place and at the right time" to make such a move....again, at least in my opinion.

Since these hybrid cams are "really" a one cam design with a tricked out idler, Mathews might be able to save face if they introduce one by selling us on the idea that they still produce "solo" cam designs with a "new and improved" idler wheel!

pdq5oh


I do agree with your analogy of forgiveness but highly disaree with your analogy that the cam doesn't affect forgiveness.Have you ever heard of creep tuning? This is just tuning in forgiveness and it has everything to do with cams and there design.First of all it isn't even a possibility with a 1 cam bow.A 2 cam bow is capable of this but slight string and/or cable stretching changes it.So now we have the hybrid that will creep tune,basically out of the box and will not change with slight cable stretching.Also a hybrid and a 2 cam will have the string running vertically instead of at an angle and this enables the string to move forward without the side to side movement found in most 1 cam bows.There again,forgiveness.

A hybrid will, in most hands provide better balance,there again,better balance means more forgiving or shootable or however you want to put it.Yes,you can achieve balance with other cams but usually some tiller adjustments need to be made or weight needs to be added.A hybrid basically offers it right out of the box.


I also feel that a smoother transition into the valley will provide a more forgiving shot because the transition out of the valley isn't as harsh.This should provide smoother and more consistant arrow flight.There again,yes,tuning will eliminate some of this,but a hybrid is already half way there.Level nock travel is also a consideration in this department.

Totaly agree TFOX , and one I will add , Most if not all single cam bows have a big , read heavy cam on the bottom limb , and a small read light top cam , creating an imbalance on the dynamic shot . A hybred bow or a dual cam bow has two cams that are very close in size shape and weight , letting the limbs work in harmony .

Huh?

am I missing something or is the top "cam" on a hybrid really not a cam at all,rather just an idler wheel with 2 tracks?

mlaubner

It is HALF of a cam.

Why does Darton call their system a single cam system, while Hoyt calls theirs a cam and 1/2 system. Didn't hoyt "borrow" this system from Darton?
Please explain the 1/2 cam to me, I must be a little slow out of the gate, but the cam 1/2 system uses 1 cable and 1 string, right? so in essence a single cam design with a fancy marketing term, right?

I like to refer to it as 2 cams with a 1 cam cable system.That is about as simple as I can put it.

Thanks TFOX...you da' man