razorhunter

JeffB is right on. Listen to him. Offset grips can easily make for mis aligned pins etc. And I totally agree that today's single cam bows group better with stiffer arrows.
Paper tune your bow from two seperate distances for a starting point.
Then group tune your arrows.
Set your sights, and I bet they still won't be lined up. I have never had a bow line up totally either. At least a newer single cam.

allunit78

Thanks for all the replys, You've all been a great help!

Arthur P

I've only shot Hoyt, Mathews, Martin, McPherson and Pearson solo cams, so I don't know about all the bows on the market. But I can say that not a single one of the bows I have shot had to have the pins out of alignment with the arrow.

I just don't see how any bow can tune to where the sights don't line up with the arrow. How can that be possible without the arrows' point of impact shifting left to right at different yardages, Jeff??

JeffB

Arthur,

You are the engineer, you tell me!

Seriously, I don't have a concrete answer for you. But I can tell you that no bow in my collection has the sight pins lined up dead center w/ the string path. Some are more than others, but they all wind up being off. I do believe it has to do w/ the fact that many bows nowadays have a grip that is offset from the centerline of the riser. Possibly this causes an "overcompensation" in the pin settings to the opposite side of the direction the grip is offset towards.

I also think that the way a person looks through the peepsight has a major(and probably more prominent) effect.

Many people center the pin in their peepsight. Some people (especially w/ these newer round guard sights) center the pin *guard* w/in the peep for a more concrete reference. This will cause your pins to be sighted in one way or the other farther out from centershot.

I don't seem to have any problems at least out to 40 yards or so, and my arrow flight is good.

JeffB

Arthur P

Jeff, you call me an engineer again and we're gonna squabble!!! I ain't no freakin' engineer, I'm a machinist! Us guys that make the stuff have to figure out how to make engineers' idiot ideas work.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

&quot;I do believe it has to do w/ the fact that many bows nowadays have a grip that is offset from the centerline of the riser. Possibly this causes an &quot;overcompensation&quot; in the pin settings to the opposite side of the direction the grip is offset towards.&quot;

Sounds to me like what you are describing is torque. I know you're an experienced shooter, so I would have to lay the blame on the bow design itself.

If I had a bow that forced me to have the pins out of alignment with the arrow, I wouldn't have that bow long. Not a single bow I've ever had (at least since I starting shooting sights for field archery competition some 20 years ago) has ever had the pins out of whack like that.

You don't happen to use a C-Peep, do you?

Rickmur

you might be opposite eye dominant. If you are that will happen. Being left handed as I it will line up to the right of center and a lot of times you will have to get a longer sight pin. To check eye dominance with both eyes open point your finger at a distant spot. Close one eye at a time and which ever eye has your finger pointing at that spot with the other eye closed is your dominate eye. You can learn to shoot with both eyes open and that will cure it. Strangly, when I went to the muzzy zero effect rest I was able to bring my pin back in line.

Rick

Edited by - mdbohuntr on 01/06/2002 09:25:11

allunit78

mdbohuntr
I did that little excercise of yours when I bought the bow and I am left eye dominant and I bat left in baseball, and shoot left in hockey and archery but I write with my right hand, so I am &quot;right handed&quot;. Maybe it has something to do with my pin not lining up?

Arthur P

I doubt it, allunit. I'm right eye dominant, shoot guns and bow right handed, but write and use a fork (very important<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>) southpaw. I'm pretty much ambidextrous with everything else.

Just wondering, do you wear glasses? Your frames could be interfering with your dominant eye and cause your other eye to actually do the aiming.


Edited by - Arthur P on 01/06/2002 10:44:28

FLETCHER CUMMINGS

WELL!!!

IS YOUR BOW IN TUNE????
ONE THING TO CHECK THAT WILL NOT TAKE TO LONG , IS TO CHECK YOUR VANE // FEATHER CLEARANCE WITH THE CABLE GUARD.
IF THE CLEARANCE IS TO MUCH YOUR ARROW WILL SHOOT TO THE RIGHT.
FIRST BE SURE OF A GOOD PAPER TUNE WITH ONLY ABOUT 1/16&quot; OR LESS OFF FLETCHING CLEARANCE