Wisker " B" question ?
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: SCHENECTADY New York USA
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Wisker " B" question ?
Well, I' m going on my third week with my WB.Up till now, I did' nt care for the whole idea,but I must say I AM seeing the light.I am VERY impressed.I bought the new quick load,but ended up mixing it with an old style " frame" ,so I would have more " up and down" adjustability.I also trimmed the bisket a bit,to help cut down on the speed loss.
My question is:I' m useing the " aluminum" bisket with Beman ICS shafts.I want' ed to have plenty of room for the shaft and fletching to pass easly.Now,if I was to switch to ,say an off-set feather fletch,#1,would I still loose speed, and #2,how well will the feathers hold up ???.
I' m only thinking about feathers because I know if my fixed blade heads don' t fly well with the strait vanes,the feathers should do the trick
Thanks for any help or suggestions
My question is:I' m useing the " aluminum" bisket with Beman ICS shafts.I want' ed to have plenty of room for the shaft and fletching to pass easly.Now,if I was to switch to ,say an off-set feather fletch,#1,would I still loose speed, and #2,how well will the feathers hold up ???.
I' m only thinking about feathers because I know if my fixed blade heads don' t fly well with the strait vanes,the feathers should do the trick
Thanks for any help or suggestions
#2
RE: Wisker " B" question ?
I posted this once from carolina archery here it is again. Hope it helps
Justin,
Thanks for taking the time to contact us. You can shoot any arrow you like
through the Whisker Biscuit. Our tests indicate that there will be some
speed loss if you use longer fletching and if you put more helical or offset
on them. Using more helical will increase the contact between the vanes and
the biscuit so more fletching wear should be expected. Some people are
trying to build an arrow with a specific purpose, like a large broadhead and
a heavy shaft for big game which may require more fletching to stabilize the
arrow in flight. The current trend is towards carbon arrows and they work
well with shorter fletching, say 4" instead of 5" . With the smaller shaft
sizes its difficult to assemble an arrow with a lot of helical because the
ends of the vanes want to lift up so its more common to see a slight offset
of 1 to 4 degrees. Around here, we shoot carbon arrows with a 4" vane or
feather using a slight offset of 1-2 degrees. With fixed blade broadheads
shot around 260 fps we are getting good arrow flight and broadhead control
out to 50 yards. Speed loss with this set up is only 1-2 fps. If you are
trying more offset, we would suggest using the tougher types of vanes
available from Flex-Fletch, Bohning, or AAE' s Speedflyte.
Hope this answers your question. Please feel free to call if you have any
other questions.
Ike Branthwaite
Justin,
Thanks for taking the time to contact us. You can shoot any arrow you like
through the Whisker Biscuit. Our tests indicate that there will be some
speed loss if you use longer fletching and if you put more helical or offset
on them. Using more helical will increase the contact between the vanes and
the biscuit so more fletching wear should be expected. Some people are
trying to build an arrow with a specific purpose, like a large broadhead and
a heavy shaft for big game which may require more fletching to stabilize the
arrow in flight. The current trend is towards carbon arrows and they work
well with shorter fletching, say 4" instead of 5" . With the smaller shaft
sizes its difficult to assemble an arrow with a lot of helical because the
ends of the vanes want to lift up so its more common to see a slight offset
of 1 to 4 degrees. Around here, we shoot carbon arrows with a 4" vane or
feather using a slight offset of 1-2 degrees. With fixed blade broadheads
shot around 260 fps we are getting good arrow flight and broadhead control
out to 50 yards. Speed loss with this set up is only 1-2 fps. If you are
trying more offset, we would suggest using the tougher types of vanes
available from Flex-Fletch, Bohning, or AAE' s Speedflyte.
Hope this answers your question. Please feel free to call if you have any
other questions.
Ike Branthwaite
#3
RE: Wisker " B" question ?
Despite the letter above I would not go with feathers on the Whisker Biscuit....especially if you are going to put any kind of spin on them. Vanes would be a better choice with a helical or offset and, yes, you can expect some speed loss.
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: SC USA
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RE: Wisker " B" question ?
Droptines, I have only been shooting feathers through my WB. When I bought my arrows they had an aggressive helical and I don' t know what kind of feathers. But they were noisy and the bisket tore them up on the ends really bad.
Then I bought a bitz.jig and fletched my own with about a 4 degree helical & Tru-flight feathers .These held up much much better but frayed on the ends a little !! And I was losing 5 fps with an untrimmed bisket.
Now I re-fletched with Tru-flights and a slight offset . I have not seen any wear on my fletchings yet = 3 weeks (I' m sure they will......but for now they are holding up great) and I picked up about 2 fps .
Good luck !!
Then I bought a bitz.jig and fletched my own with about a 4 degree helical & Tru-flight feathers .These held up much much better but frayed on the ends a little !! And I was losing 5 fps with an untrimmed bisket.
Now I re-fletched with Tru-flights and a slight offset . I have not seen any wear on my fletchings yet = 3 weeks (I' m sure they will......but for now they are holding up great) and I picked up about 2 fps .
Good luck !!
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Feathers Vanes Broadheads and the Biscuit
I' ve shot straight fletch, helical, offset fletch, and Turbonocks through my biscuit and they have all worked well. If the bow is tuned and you use the correct spine arrow and the rest is adjusted for the narrowest group all styles of fletch will work. I shoot fixed broadheads 15grains lighter than my fieldpoints and they hit the same hole. I use 4" straight Duravanes and the fixed heads go straight. If you are shooting light shafts stick with light heads like 85grains, heavy shafts will do better with 140 Muzzys than with lighter heads. Match the spine to the bow and match light heads with light arrows and heavy heads with heavy arrows. Everything goes pretty straight with the biscuit so I don' t use more than 4" fletch. Good luck hunting!
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: SCHENECTADY New York USA
Posts: 302
RE: Wisker " B" question ?
Thanks for all the responses,guys The more I think about it,the more I DON' T want to go to feathers.I might be takeing away from the trouble " freeness" of the WB.Not to mention the added noise.If my fixed heads don' t do what I want,with the vanes,then I' ll throw a small mech.head in the " drivers seat" .My arrows start out with 60 foot pounds KE,so the mech.heads should be good,30 yards and under,,wich is my personal comfort zone.I have some WASP BOSS heads,but NOT too happy with the blade sharpness.I' m going to see how they fly.If OK, I might buy a 3 pack of the T-HEADS, 100gr.,,because those BLADES ARE THE SHARPEST SUCKERS I HAVE EVER CUT MY SELF WITH,,,bar none[]
Hey, keep the advice/experience comming [:-]
Hey, keep the advice/experience comming [:-]