Dropaway rests-minimumspeed to be effective
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From: Cheswick Pa. USA
Is there a minimum speed for rests like the muzzy zero effect to be effective.Chronoed my bow other day at 226fps and wondered if that would be too slow causing arrow to drop on release.
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From: Blissfield MI USA
I will agree with the rest of the guys, I can' t think of a fall a way rest design that would have a Minimum speed to funtion properly. The only thing that would come to mind would be the inertia driven rests and bows with low energy levels, low poundage, or very little recoil. I have heard with these set ups the rests have trouble dropping because there is not enough inertia or recoil to trip properly. I have never owned one, so I can' t say for sure, maybe they just were not set properly.
If anything, I would worry about having too much speed. This is a situation that could cause some problems with some of the designs. With a really fast bow the arm may not fall fast enough for the fletchings to clear it. Most of these rests have a way to adjust the rate at which the arm drops, and this can be fixed with some tinkering. The Muzzy is very adjustable for this sort of thing once you figure out how it works. The reason for this is some of the rests are designed so the rest stays up for a little while to give a bit more control on the arrow. Then it drops just before the fletchings get to it. Thus giving you the best of both worlds, the control of a prong rest, but no fletch interferance. But if you have a really fast bow, or shorter arrows, you may have to change the timing of the rest in order to get it to work right. The muzzy is great for for this, since it is driven by a linkage connected to your cable slide you can set it to drop virtually anywhere in the power stroke.
I don' t know how this would be accomplished on a rest that falls away like the quicktunes or one that is spring driven like a converted prong rest. I have converted my quicktune into a drop away a few times and didn' t think it worked as well as an actual drop a way rest. I have not had a chance to look at the 2000 and 4000 NAP' s to see exactly how they work, but I have a fair idea. And I have heard complaints of them not dropping quick enough. I have heard the same thing about the muzzy too, but I think on the muzzy it could be adjusted out.
With your speed of 226 I don' t think you will have that problem though. And that is deffinately not too slow. That is about what I shoot on average, between 220 and 235 with most of my set ups. Sometimes slower, I' ve been down to under 200 and up to around 270. I' ve used a converted quicktune 3000, a SME drop away(the original one with the linkage), and currently a muzzy zero effect. They have all worked irregardless of arrow speed or size.
Good luck with what ever you decide,
Paul
If anything, I would worry about having too much speed. This is a situation that could cause some problems with some of the designs. With a really fast bow the arm may not fall fast enough for the fletchings to clear it. Most of these rests have a way to adjust the rate at which the arm drops, and this can be fixed with some tinkering. The Muzzy is very adjustable for this sort of thing once you figure out how it works. The reason for this is some of the rests are designed so the rest stays up for a little while to give a bit more control on the arrow. Then it drops just before the fletchings get to it. Thus giving you the best of both worlds, the control of a prong rest, but no fletch interferance. But if you have a really fast bow, or shorter arrows, you may have to change the timing of the rest in order to get it to work right. The muzzy is great for for this, since it is driven by a linkage connected to your cable slide you can set it to drop virtually anywhere in the power stroke.
I don' t know how this would be accomplished on a rest that falls away like the quicktunes or one that is spring driven like a converted prong rest. I have converted my quicktune into a drop away a few times and didn' t think it worked as well as an actual drop a way rest. I have not had a chance to look at the 2000 and 4000 NAP' s to see exactly how they work, but I have a fair idea. And I have heard complaints of them not dropping quick enough. I have heard the same thing about the muzzy too, but I think on the muzzy it could be adjusted out.
With your speed of 226 I don' t think you will have that problem though. And that is deffinately not too slow. That is about what I shoot on average, between 220 and 235 with most of my set ups. Sometimes slower, I' ve been down to under 200 and up to around 270. I' ve used a converted quicktune 3000, a SME drop away(the original one with the linkage), and currently a muzzy zero effect. They have all worked irregardless of arrow speed or size.
Good luck with what ever you decide,
Paul
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From: Cheswick Pa. USA
Thanks for the answers and info.Have a 4yr.old Quicktune 800 and was looking at the Muzzys and watching somebody use one,and wondered about this.Thanks again. Mike




