you said it bigj12 ,couldn't agree more

Question guys, I have used a rubber tubing peep for the last three years. Just bought a Black Ice and had another one put on. How much does it slow the bow down compared to a tubeless one?

I went up 8fps but i think it is on a case to case bases. Your bow is different and your peep might be in a different spot. The main reason was the noise and vibration that sold me on a better peep. Plus look at teh size and amount of mas of the tube peep in your string compared to the tube less the hole in the string can even get smaller with the right peep.

I have a peep with a tube on it but am starting to get convinced not to have a tube. So what are my options on peep sights that dont require a tube??? Id like to increase my bow speed and reduce the noise and apparently this will help. Thanks

There are a lot out there I just wen to a local proshop and told them I was upset about my tubing breaking all the time they told me the same stuff I told you and they showed me like 10 sights that went on without a tube. You cant do it on a new string it has to be streched and al rested into place so that the peep will not turn on you. If you are using a string loop thing willl also help you center the peep when you pull back.

G5 makes a nice aluminum peep that is tubeless and has a disclaimer about increased speed. Put it on 2 weeks ago and no problems. You have to train the peep to stay in place. Once that's done your ok. I pulled a bow out I haven't shot in 8 yrs and the peep was still aligned with no tube required.