Pro38 dual cam VS. Patriot
12-12-2002, 12:26 PM
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Pro38 dual cam VS. Patriot
I just recently sold my Patriot to buy a Pro38 dual cam.I had a pro38 dually earlier this year but had to sell it because of my back but I have the back under control now, so I thought why not try a pro38 again because I really liked it before.
I got to shot both bows side by side. The Patriot is a 60lb model maxed at 62lb and the Pro38 is 70lb maxed at 73lbs. Both have cat whiskers, limb savers, string loop and a doniker shorty hunter(on the pat. mounted in the rear, Pro38 in front).
This suprised me but the patriot@62# didn't feel as smooth drawing as the pro38@73#. The pro38 did feel heavier but is was smother to draw. Go figure.
The Pro38 held much better on target, I guess because the bow is not top heavy and the pro38 did feel lighter than patriot but both are the same weight.
On the shot the Patriot did beat the Pro38, but not by much hand shock was similar but the vibration was a little more on the pro38.
We won't even talk about speed because we know which is the second fastest bow in the world or at least until jan. The spec sheet for the pro38 has is doing 322fps with 28" draw and 71.8lbs with a 350gr arrow.
Smokin' fast!!
In a nut shell I think both bow are great bows but I have to give the nod to the Pro38 because I like the way it draws and holds on target better and the added speed with very little vibration and hand shock.
I know all you people with dually pats on order will have something to say about the speed issue in jan.
Also what length and weight Stealth stab. would you suggest on me getting for the Pro38? Darn you Matt<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Edited by - bigcountry25 on 12/13/2002 11:13:36
I got to shot both bows side by side. The Patriot is a 60lb model maxed at 62lb and the Pro38 is 70lb maxed at 73lbs. Both have cat whiskers, limb savers, string loop and a doniker shorty hunter(on the pat. mounted in the rear, Pro38 in front).
This suprised me but the patriot@62# didn't feel as smooth drawing as the pro38@73#. The pro38 did feel heavier but is was smother to draw. Go figure.
The Pro38 held much better on target, I guess because the bow is not top heavy and the pro38 did feel lighter than patriot but both are the same weight.
On the shot the Patriot did beat the Pro38, but not by much hand shock was similar but the vibration was a little more on the pro38.
We won't even talk about speed because we know which is the second fastest bow in the world or at least until jan. The spec sheet for the pro38 has is doing 322fps with 28" draw and 71.8lbs with a 350gr arrow.
Smokin' fast!!
In a nut shell I think both bow are great bows but I have to give the nod to the Pro38 because I like the way it draws and holds on target better and the added speed with very little vibration and hand shock.
I know all you people with dually pats on order will have something to say about the speed issue in jan.
Also what length and weight Stealth stab. would you suggest on me getting for the Pro38? Darn you Matt<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Edited by - bigcountry25 on 12/13/2002 11:13:36
12-12-2002, 08:47 PM
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RE: Pro38 dual cam VS. Patriot
big, I agree with what you've said. I have a P38DC, and sold my 2002 Pat. I do have a Pat DC on order. I really like the P38. It shoots a 365 gr arrow 293 at 60#, 29". I also prefer the draw of the dual cam. I can't wait for Jan.
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12-13-2002, 03:51 PM
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RE: Pro38 dual cam VS. Patriot
I shoot BowTechs as well and currently own a Patriot and a P38 - both single cams, both 27", both 70# (although I did put 60# limbs on the 38 for spots this season). I'd agree with just about everything stated except for the '38 held much better on target'.
I haven't noticed the Patriot giving me the wiggles any more than the 38. I shot the 38 for 3d this year but I think outdoors in 3d conditions I'm as accurate with either setup. I will be shooting the Patriot for 3d this coming year - can't afford to upgrade yet<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>
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I haven't noticed the Patriot giving me the wiggles any more than the 38. I shot the 38 for 3d this year but I think outdoors in 3d conditions I'm as accurate with either setup. I will be shooting the Patriot for 3d this coming year - can't afford to upgrade yet<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>
Aim small miss small
12-13-2002, 04:16 PM
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RE: Pro38 dual cam VS. Patriot
I figured you would find another one somewhere? 
I've been missing mine actually so I hope the DC Patriot and the DC Pro40 will ease the pain some? (I would think so! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>)
As you can tell by my 2 new choices what I think of the BowTech dual cams.....and they are supposed to be even better?
When I tested the Stealth stabilizers originally in the spring The Pro38 Dual Cam was one of the test bows. I used an 8" and it was PERFECT on that bow with any normal hunting type sight. If you like the feel now.....wait until you get one of those on there. With Limbsavers, and the Stealth I didn't need any string silencers......for some reason that model bow didn't have the serious Winner's Choice BUZZ that some others I've felt had. It felt like I had Leeches on even tho it was a bare string......very different than the single cam Pro38's I've shot which vibrated noticeably from string twang w/ a bare string set up.
I've been missing mine actually so I hope the DC Patriot and the DC Pro40 will ease the pain some? (I would think so! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>)
As you can tell by my 2 new choices what I think of the BowTech dual cams.....and they are supposed to be even better?
When I tested the Stealth stabilizers originally in the spring The Pro38 Dual Cam was one of the test bows. I used an 8" and it was PERFECT on that bow with any normal hunting type sight. If you like the feel now.....wait until you get one of those on there. With Limbsavers, and the Stealth I didn't need any string silencers......for some reason that model bow didn't have the serious Winner's Choice BUZZ that some others I've felt had. It felt like I had Leeches on even tho it was a bare string......very different than the single cam Pro38's I've shot which vibrated noticeably from string twang w/ a bare string set up.
12-14-2002, 11:55 AM
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RE: Pro38 dual cam VS. Patriot
maybe one of you guys can answer a question for me.....what is the letoff for the new dual cam bowtechs. i am no big fan of one cam bows and the new bowtechs interest me. i shoot a 2002 hoyt protec with command cams for 3d and am looking for a new hunting bow and with the speeds i see advertised for the bowtechs i'm leaning towards them for hunting. the patriot dual cam in particular would seem logical for turkeys out of a blind as well as deer. thanks.....
