Senate Bill 850 Defeated
02-01-2011, 02:09 PM
#11
Nontypical Buck
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And also.....
-What if you or your relatives are the landowners?
- Over 75% of people in VA no longer consider Sunday a day of rest. Just look at the crowds in Wally World and the malls on Sundays....... A day of rest, right?
We can go back and forth on the Sunday hunting all day long.
I can put holes in every theory or argument.
Utah, probably the most religious state in the nation............... allows hunting on Sunday!
-What if you or your relatives are the landowners?
- Over 75% of people in VA no longer consider Sunday a day of rest. Just look at the crowds in Wally World and the malls on Sundays....... A day of rest, right?
We can go back and forth on the Sunday hunting all day long.
I can put holes in every theory or argument.
Utah, probably the most religious state in the nation............... allows hunting on Sunday!
You have an excellent point. It is really not about religion IMO. Religion is being used by a select few to sway others.
Even though I don't live in his district, I emailed Senator Petersen and asked if we may be going about this the wrong way. My suggestion was to to do like North Carolina did. Allow Sunday hunting for archery on private lands only. I just feel this might be a little easier to accept for some. I have yet to hear back from him.
02-01-2011, 03:20 PM
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Fork Horn
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I know it would be a hard decision to make but maybe if enough hunters did not buy a hunting license next year and not hunt(
) they would lose enough money to allow sunday hunting. If everyone that believes in sunday hunting did this and wrote their sent. Maybe just maybe they would change their tune.?. I know I sound crazy huh?
) they would lose enough money to allow sunday hunting. If everyone that believes in sunday hunting did this and wrote their sent. Maybe just maybe they would change their tune.?. I know I sound crazy huh?
02-01-2011, 05:08 PM
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I know it would be a hard decision to make but maybe if enough hunters did not buy a hunting license next year and not hunt() they would lose enough money to allow sunday hunting. If everyone that believes in sunday hunting did this and wrote their sent. Maybe just maybe they would change their tune.?. I know I sound crazy huh?
) they would lose enough money to allow sunday hunting. If everyone that believes in sunday hunting did this and wrote their sent. Maybe just maybe they would change their tune.?. I know I sound crazy huh?It may eventually come to that. If the license sales are declining, as I have read before, then it may come to that. I wonder if that is why the VDGIF spoke in favor of Sunday hunting this year?
02-02-2011, 06:00 AM
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Those who don`t want Sunday hunting use the excuse "Sunday is the Sabbath"....."A day of rest".......and "Landowners don`t want hunters on their property on Sunday".......But then they say it`s ok to look for your dogs on Sunday.......And looking for your dogs dosn`t sound like your resting to me..............and i do believe some of those dogs are on the same landowners property who say they don`t want hunters on their land on Sundays........These people are a bunch of HYPOCRITES......
Someday Virginia will have Sunday Hunting......
Someday Virginia will have Sunday Hunting......
02-02-2011, 09:14 AM
#18
Fork Horn
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yeah... we all knew this was a bill doomed from the start. Partly because it was submitted so late and was there really anykind of politiking to get others besides Peterson and Mardsen to vote yes?
The landowners as brewman555 said dont want it.... ugggg if they own the land then they can set the rules for thierown land and say.. "NO HUNTING ON SUNDAY"
Exerpts of Statement just released by Governor's DNR Secretary Doug Domenech:
“Hunting and other shooting sports are an important part of Virginia’s heritage. Each year, these activities make vital contributions that enhance the Commonwealth’s economy, natural resources and overall wellbeing."
"In addition, allowing Sunday hunting would result in significant economic growth including over $100 million in additional wages and approximately $300 million in overall economic benefit to the Commonwealth."
"In addition, the ban reduces by half the number of days that Virginia’s hard working citizens and students can take to the field."
Everyone should email Secretary Domenech and ask him to take this directly to the Governor, Maybe there's enough financial impact to influence the Governor to use his special powers, and force the law.
Its a stretch.... but its something...
And it still BOGGLES my mind that hunting groups testified against....
The landowners as brewman555 said dont want it.... ugggg if they own the land then they can set the rules for thierown land and say.. "NO HUNTING ON SUNDAY"
Exerpts of Statement just released by Governor's DNR Secretary Doug Domenech:
“Hunting and other shooting sports are an important part of Virginia’s heritage. Each year, these activities make vital contributions that enhance the Commonwealth’s economy, natural resources and overall wellbeing."
"In addition, allowing Sunday hunting would result in significant economic growth including over $100 million in additional wages and approximately $300 million in overall economic benefit to the Commonwealth."
"In addition, the ban reduces by half the number of days that Virginia’s hard working citizens and students can take to the field."
Everyone should email Secretary Domenech and ask him to take this directly to the Governor, Maybe there's enough financial impact to influence the Governor to use his special powers, and force the law.
Its a stretch.... but its something...
And it still BOGGLES my mind that hunting groups testified against....
02-02-2011, 04:29 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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Probably Dates to the Civil War
The legislators in Virginia are probably afraid the Confederate deer hunters will return and wipe out the entire whitetail deer herd of Virginia. Old memories sure do die hard.
A Rebel War Clerk's Diary
at the
Confederate States Capital [Richmond,Virginia]
by J.B. Jones
I noticed, to-day, eight slaughtered deer in one shop; and they are seen hanging at the doors in every street. The price is $3[Pg 135] per pound. Wild turkies, geese, ducks, partridges, etc. are also exposed for sale, at enormous prices, and may mitigate the famine now upon us. The war has caused an enormous increase of wild game. But ammunition is difficult to be obtained. I see some perch, chubb, and other fish, but all are selling at famine prices.
A Rebel War Clerk's Diary
at the
Confederate States Capital [Richmond,Virginia]
by J.B. Jones
I noticed, to-day, eight slaughtered deer in one shop; and they are seen hanging at the doors in every street. The price is $3[Pg 135] per pound. Wild turkies, geese, ducks, partridges, etc. are also exposed for sale, at enormous prices, and may mitigate the famine now upon us. The war has caused an enormous increase of wild game. But ammunition is difficult to be obtained. I see some perch, chubb, and other fish, but all are selling at famine prices.