I too have not been able to get the scirrocco to group well in my rifles.Then again the partitions and a-frames don't group a lot better either.Ballistic tips cut those groups down from the 1-1/2" to 2" range down to 1/2".I was really hoping nosler would offer the new accubond in lighter weights as I have no use for a 200gr bullet in my 300ultra or a 160gr bullet in my 7mmstw.

I have trouble with the Scirocco in my 300 RUM as well. The best I have done is about 1 1/2 inch with Rel 25. Everything else is all over the place. On the other hand, I get 1/2 to 3/4 inches with Nosler Btips in the same rifle.

i am new to the 300rum, i just purchased one, and not having the ability to reload yet, i bought the 150gr scirroco off the shelf. my gun is a sendero, and it is scoped with a 6.5x20x50 leupold. i shot the gun for the first time and it shot 1/2 in groups with the factory bullets. i have not shot anything with hair yet, and will not be able too until nov 2003, but if the accuracy is the same, i will shoot the scirroco. i see there is some concern about bullet performance on game, such as meat damage. i have shot deer with 22-250 and up, and have had damage with all calibers with not so perfect shot placement. that was several years past. nowadays, the patience and placement are there. if it goes on the table it gets it in the neck or head. if it goes on the wall, it gets it low in the lungs.
my only real question is this: how can a bullet be considered a failure if it still killed the quary? dead is dead. placement of the shot is what spoils the meat.
is there a real possibility for a bullet to be misguided once inside of a deer even with 150gr bullets at or above 3000fps, and would this tendency be decreased with lower muzzle velocities?
i have hunted for years, and never really gotten into the debate over bullet performance on animals. i have yet to loose an animal with shot with a gun, so i will call all of my hunts successful. are there things i should be looking for on recovered game?
when i was younger i shot a small doe facing me, with a 7mm mag at about 225 yards and disemboweled the animal. could that be considered too much expansion? the bullet traveled the entire length of the deer and took off the right rear leg. should the bullet have stayed together and not did all that damage? maybe a heavier built bullet? the round in use was a core lock 140gr.

Keith,
If the Scirocco's group that well shoot it. This bullet is designed specifically for the ultra high velocity of the RUM line and Weatherby's. I've only killed 2 deer and an antelope with mine and the animals were quite dead quite fast but that's not many animals. The gun grouped well with my handloads. Remington doesn't load the scirocco in the 7mm RUM for some odd reason yet but does for the 300.

soonershooter, remington does in fact load the scirroco in the 7mm mag, but i have not seen the loads for the ultra mag. the scirroco that i shot in my 7mm mag sendero didnt perform as well as the 150gr for the 300rum, but is close to satisfactory. they are a little pricey, at $26 per box for the 7mag, so i started handloading the 140gr nosler bt. great shooter with 61gr of imr4350. my next batch i will try the nosler with a little more powder, maybe 63gr and another at 64.5gr. might be good medicine for those tough 80lb whitetail does we have around here........lol

Keith, your results with the 150 gn scirrocos interest me. I have a 300 rum sendero sf. It shoots 3/4 moa with 180gn scirrocos. With the 150 gn, the three shot group opens up larger than 2 inches at 100 yards. I figured the little bullets couldn't handle the speed. Both figures are with factory loaded ammo. My dies are already ordered, so reload testing should be soon. Just proves that different guns prefer different rounds.

recoil, i would like to hear of your recipe for the 300rum. i have a set of dies on the way, like oal and charge. i am going to try the 150gr and 165gf nosler bt. i shot the gun again and duplicated the previous groups, so i am quite satisfied with the bullet, but not the price.
it is my understanding that the scirroco is designed to shoot the higher velocities developed by todays hot rods. i have yet to try the heavier bullets, but if i cannot get better accuracy out of the handloads i will continue to spend the money on the 150gr scirroco.
i am not sure the 150gr nosler will hold up well with a heavy charge, or at higher velocities. i would dare say i will not shoot any deer at close ranges (under 100 yards) with that bullet if it shoots well.
we have an overabundance of does on our hunting property, so it is nice to try different rounds out on live critters. we have used all manner of calibers and loads, and the worst damage we have seen by any bullet was the factory loaded core lock, in 7mag and 300mag. a whole lot of damage, and a whole lot of dead deer. they work amazingly well at killing, but the damage we have experienced has been a little brutal......lol

Keith, I don't have any recipes yet. The dies came in this week but I forgot to order the shell hoder (my Lee dies come with shell holders). My accuracy comparisons come from store bought factory loaded ammo. As far as damage to the meat goes, I shoot close deer in the neck. Last year I shot a 90 lbs doe in the neck at 15 yards. I don't think any bullet could have caused less damage. The exit wound was not much bigger than the entry wound. The doe didn't take one step. The increased accuracy lets me take the long shots that I enjoy. This year I shot a nine point at close to 400 yards with a 180 gn scirroco. I shot him in the shoulder and meat loss wasn't too bad. I'm gonna give the Nosler ballistic tips a try as soon as a get the shell holder.

Oh yeah, around here (Alabama) you can easily be forced to pay $46 for a box of 300 rum scirrocos. As a matter of fact, the least I have ever paid for a box is $38. Reloading seems to be the only option for someone who likes to shoot year round like me!