i am thinking of loading some 150gr. scirroco for my 7mm ultramag, currently using 150gr. nosler ballistic tips but not happy with the jacket seperation. will the scirroco be close to the nbt for accuracy and have better penetraion without seperating? was also considering the sst bullets. can ya help me out here! thanks ultramags

I shot a couple of boxes last summer in my 280, and never could get them to group very good. Two to three inches at 100 with most powders. The polycarbonate tip and the skinny ogive makes it hard to seat them close to the rifles for one thing, but even seating them longer than my maqazine, I never did get a good shooting load. For compaison, I can get five shot groups with nosler bt's under an inch on a regular basis, and the 140 bx will average about 1.25-1.5" Im sure the scirocco bullet will stick together better than ballistic tips, but my accuracy results were sort of disappointing. I think I have a few of them left, you have perked my interest now, I might go load a few up and stick them in some does next week and see what happens. Good luck.

I have used the 180 grain Scirocco in my .300 Weatherby on deer and have been less than pleased. I specifically chose the Scirocco for this rifle because of its bonded core design. I felt it would perform better at the higher velocities than conventional bullets.

I have not lost a deer using this bullet, but I have experienced unneccessary meat damage because they expand too much in my opinion. My first experience was on a whitetail shot in the left ribs at a distance of about 25 yards. Muzzle velocity was about 3,150 fps, so it was still probably traveling over 3,000 fps on impact. I expected to find an exit wound, but instead, the bullet ended up under the hide over the right shoulder. Instead of making a straight wound channel through the ribs, it veered left, hitting the right shoulder and damaging meat I would have liked to have saved. This was because it had peeled all the way back to the base. There was virtually no bullet shank remaining and it was flat as a pancake. A bullet won't behave predictably if it doesn't retain a good portion of the shank.

In a high velocity application at close range I don't think these are the best bullets to use. They will kill, no doubt about it, but they don't behave predictably enough once inside the animal in my opinion. You may end up with more meat loss than what you want. I think they are better suited for milder velocities. However, if meat loss is no concern, then I would have to say these are as good as any other bullet out there for deer sized game.

I ran the SST over the NBT this fall in my 7mm Rem Mag. They performed well and were actually more accurate than the NBT at all ranges...thats why I used them. I shot a large buck(300+) through the rib and angled to the left shoulder. Bullet enter in the right rib, trashed both lungs and tore the top of heart clear off. It then smashed through the left shoulder leaving a 4" hole and no bullet to be found. The left shoulder was trashed (meat wise) and it literally almost plucked it from his body(it was only held on by some meat and hide). I range found the distance at 125 yards and as you can guess he dropped in a heap.

I was very pleased with the performance, I would not hesitate to shoot them again, when hunting deer.

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My 7mm RUM is a 700 LSS with tapered barrel and muzzlebrake. I shoot Scirocco's exclusively and have 1/2 minute groups. I'm not loading it too hot though. Bullets kill everything I've hit with it on the spot.

To the guy who posted his 25 yard shot ruined the meat; You aim for the head at that close range to minimize meat damage with any caliber, imho. That close and you were critical of bullet failure? I feel the bullet was lucky to not vaporize out of a 7mm RUM! The deer was euthanized very quickly and if you're worried about meat damage take a different caliber, take a differnt shot angle or wait for a longer distance.

You know, Swift did an excellent job marketing this bullet. They marketed it as a flat, high wieght retention, bonded boattail that would fly like a Bullistic tip but stay together like a bonded bullet. I wanted this bullet to work so bad. But I gave up. I can get .5" to 1" groups at 100 yards with my 300RUM with most bullets, but my groups were the worst with these. Around 3" consistently. I can't figure it out. I have went around talking to several shooters and about 1 out of 10 people get them to tack drive. Even the coreloks do better. But do you know what will shoot like no bodies business in my gun? Those gold plated gazillion dollar A-Frames!! And I can't afford to shoot them.

I'm wondering if the bullet has too long a shank and the jacket(100%) copper is too sticky for it to work in all guns. As far as shooting something at 25 yards that would be reach for any bullet made these days especially at that velocity..only thing that would survive might be a failsafe,x bullet or a solid.

Let me expand a little bit on my previous comments. I hunt from a stand and 99% of the deer I shoot are brousing around and never have a clue they're being hunted. I'm very selective about the shots I take. I always, and I mean always, go for a broadside shot through the ribs so as to minimize meat loss. The situation I described was no exception, it was a perfect broadside shot behind the shoulder.

I have shot numerous deer with the .300 Wby, most at 50 yards and less. The Scirocco was the first bullet I've used in this rifle that has failed to exit. I've used Nosler Partitions and Ballistic Tips, Hornady SSTs and Interlocks, Speer Grand Slams, North Forks and so on, and all of these produced straight wound channels and exited when placed behind the shoulder.

I don't consider the performance I achieved with the Scirocco a failure and never said so. It probably did exactly what it was designed to do. The .300 Wby demands a lot from a bullet and quite frankly I'm surprised by the results I've gotten from some of the other bullets so far. If all you're interested in is putting the deer on the ground, then the Scirocco will do that, no question about it. But in my limited experience with it so far, at high velocity it peels back farther than I would like for it to.

It's not my intention to dissuade anyone from using this bullet. I'm just trying to provide some objective information, so people might know what to expect when using it in a high velocity application. I'll probably keep using it some myself. I'd prefer it to retain more of it's shank, but I can't complain about the accuracy I'm getting and the way it poleaxes deer.

I'm confused.....when you're spending $3,000-$5,000 on a hunting trip......is $42 for 50 bullets a big deal???

Buy the bonded swift A-frames and get on with life!!!