stubblejumper

If you want lower prices,expect the companies to source out to cheap labour.

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Show me just one example of a company lowering there prices,after outsorcing their product!!!!!!!!!!!!It don't happen, just pack the pockets of the big dogs

steve4102

Where did you "find out" these were made in China??? I have 3 RCBS presses. A very old Rock chucker a new Rock Chucker Supreme (2 years old) and a New RCBS Turret Press (3 months old). I dug out the boxes for the RC Supreme and the Turret pressand Both state very clearly "MADE IN USA".

trailer

This is the way of today's market. Get used to it. Every one want cheap, cheap, cheap...

Doug S

I agree with Steve, we want it all, we want it now, and we want the best price. That will be the epitaph of the America we have now. You can't blame it on the Corp. structure, they are just doing what we as consumers do every day, getting the most bang for our buck. If Corp America didn't make a profit then we would cry about our investments doing poorly and not haveing a retirement. If some guy at the top can make a huge salery, what's wrong with that? They have been doing it since we were shooting flintlocks, why is itall of a sudden a bad thing?

Examples of lower prices, look around, that PC you are using used to cost 2-3K or more when IBM made them here, how about that VCR, DVD or Microwave we all use. I realize there are other factors involved but cheap labor plays a big part. Heck, when i was a kid in the 60's a box of .22's cost 60 cents, they only go for a little over a dollar now but look at how much the cost of living has gone up.

I didn't know Buck knives were now made overseas, kind of a shame but to be expected..

Doug

bigcountry

Quickly off the top of my head,tennis shoes. In the 70's and 80's, shoes were much more expensive, now we found slave labor, I buy a set of sneakers for 30 dollars at cabelas by newbalance and pretty comfortable. And of course clothes. When I used to buy business casual in 1990, a set of docker cost 40-50 dollars. Now, I find them easily for 25 a pop.

Lastly, my company, used to sell 2.5GHz data modules for 25K, now they moved most manufactuing to thailand, we seel data modules for 5K and are 4 times the speed.

These are just quick things on the top of my head.

Briman

I don't see what the big deal is if the casting is made in china. Making iron castings is low tech, dirty work. I wouldmn't blame RCBS, I would blame the regulatory environment in this country for forcing manufacturers to outsource some of their processes to countries with no environmental laws.

DM

I agree.... here's a short story..

When i had my gunshop, the "teamster" that delivered my smokeless gun powder to me was a friend of mine... He kinda thought it was funny that i was surcharged (teamsters rules) eachtime he delivered gun powder to me because it wasa "hazardous" substance....

Years later he retired and started a hobby shop... One day i was inhis shopand a teamster delivered some gas for the radio controled airplanes he sold.... He noticed he was surcharged by the teamsters for the "hazardous" substance and blew up!! He figured he was getting ripped off!!!

When i remindedhim of how funny he thought it waswhen "he" use to deliver gunpowder to me, he got so mad at me hetold me to leave!!

Seems it was just fine when "someone else" was getting screwed!

DM

DM

They do it to save money! There's several foundries around here that would be HAPPY to make those for RCBS!!! My nephue runs a foundry, and it's a real problem "every day" trying to compete with 3rd world countries on price!

DM

trailer

Very true. Just an example. We manufacture fixtures at our plant and have been finding out that some companies will sell the same product we quote except there price is so low it would just cover our material without any labor. How do compete against that ?? The only advantage we have is that every one wants there order yesterday and can’t wait six weeks for the product to come overseas...