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Old 10-01-2003 | 03:15 PM
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DL2, you make an excellent point about corresponding with government officials about what we fear, think should be done and so on. This is something I did the first time and have done several times since then...the same response is given we are looking into all matters and considering what is best suited for all parties...we thank you for your concerns...blah,blah, blah...basically a PFOL. I agree though one voice does nothing we need many to crack the egg, however just b/c we vent, discuss, etc in a forum does not make it wrong.

BTW, I am a little confused where you stand on this issue, one minute your scolding about our position & next well not sure how to take your comments??? You have a right to your own opinion and feelings, but for me to get on your band wagon you better smack down more than few lines. I assume you have a different outlook, experiences and so on...I would be very interested to hearing them. I have illustrated my experiences to show it wasn' t racial slurs or greed in any form.

I personally believe public discussion, venting is not only a good way to trade ideas, experiences & feelings, but a good way to ignite a group to move on issues (yes write letters, emails, phone there MP' s and so on). You know it is also a good way to deal with frustration and prevent hot tempers from boiling over. I would like to see a resolve that would not deter or hurt either parties involved. Equal rights have been missing from most of us hardworking citzens for years, we work hard to fight for others but do little to better ourselves..yep thats life and a sign of greedy society for sure(LOL). I do think we have become the roll over and die types, we can' t change it so why bother. All I want is for that mentality to change ever so slightly, not take it laying down but be able to show the ones who have no vested interest that we do matter and need to be considered (as do all the other groups that form this nation).


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Old 10-02-2003 | 09:00 AM
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This decision really does suck.
I can' t understand how Metis can be granted special status over non-natives because most of them have never even lived on a reserve and are not 100% native.
Looking thru post after post on this subject all over, it appears that there was only 1 treaty signed in Ontario that included Metis and that was treaty number #3 in the rainy river area only.

So tell me how does the Canadian Charter preclude that they have the same rights as natives? Where are the Treaties other than #3?

The notwithstanding clause needs to be invoved on this issue because fish/game is a provincial matter.
Let the feds deal with the tax aspect of this as it was their elected judges.

Someone white with no rights at all or liscense is probably going to harvest game and fight for the rest of our rights as well.

This decision is total B.S.

Something needs to be done, I am not looking forward to my first encounter with a white Metis hunting moose next weekend.
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Old 10-02-2003 | 09:27 AM
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Well if you guys think this is bad, you should see us here in New Brunswick. The natives not only have the wright to harvess moose and deer, they can sell it to!! The province even gives out a permit to the buyer for the moose meat. Imagine!!What' s happening is that the white people are buying moose meat from natives for next to nothing. How long do you think the moose population is going to last. I' ve applied for the last 14 years for a moose tag and haven' t gotten it yet and the way it' s going, I' ll never shoot a moose in NB. Hopefully your province won' t fall into this #$# situation. BEWARE!!!!
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Old 10-05-2003 | 06:57 AM
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DL2,

The last time I checked this country is called CANADA....that means we should all call ourselves CANADIANS. This could be the GREATEST country in world??

Thats the whole problem with this country is that every " little group" thinks they should have " SPECIAL RIGHTS" ??? Whether you be French, Native, Metis, Sikh, Gay, Inuit etc. etc. etc.


Where do the Metis rights come from? They didn' t own any land here they were FRENCH fur traders that stole the land and wives from the Aboriginal Canadians and then claimed it as their own.

As far as I am concerned if you own the land you should be able to do whatever u like but.....that means Crown land is NOT owned by Natives or Metis therefore to hunt on Crown land they should have to " FOLLOW THE RULES" .

Eventually there will be NO game left and the Natives and Metis will cry " %$#$^%%$ white man" killed all the Moose, now pay us compenstaion!!!

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Old 10-05-2003 | 05:46 PM
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Corey, we are the greatest country in the world - even geographically speaking.
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Old 10-09-2003 | 07:30 AM
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I have heard through the grapevine that the Sask government has told the Metis community....." NO" ....when asked if they could hunt&fish unregulated.

I hope this is true, also heard that they are preparing a challenge to Supreme Court decision. If anything this will delay things long enough for people in power to come to their senses....

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Old 10-09-2003 | 09:45 AM
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Corey, be a big guy and provide a link - spare the posts regarding rumours and all the " hope" crap.
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Old 10-09-2003 | 09:14 PM
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DL2,

There is NO link (yet) that I know of, this is rumours I heard through friends that have friends in DNR that ARE VERY WORRIED about these f' in a-holes getting the right to hunt and fish un-regulated.

Sounds like you are pulling for the Metis to get the right ?? If so you are NOT a sportsman you are probably one the those LOSERS that cannot hunt SUCCESSFULLY within the confines of the LAW and SYSTEM everyone else uses(white-man who is a wannabe Native) so you have to cheat by whatever means neccessary.

The last time these a-holes were turned loose it was like WWIII around the Hudson Bay area. These guys were hunting in groups as large as 4-5 dozen(with 4 or 5 reefer semi trailers) and pushing all the animals into the open(using quads, lights etc etc) and then mowing down everything in their path.

I don' t care what anyone says this is NOT traditional and I have NEVER seen even Natives hunting like that? In fact the Natives were just as pissed at theses Metis pricks as everyone else....


So DL2,

Explain to me why this is a good thing????
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Old 10-10-2003 | 07:47 AM
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I won' t eplain anything to one who assumes things (everything in your last post), and is an open bigot. You should be ashamed of yourself.

You wouldnt last five minutes in Toronto prairie boy.
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Old 10-10-2003 | 08:59 AM
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People this is getting a little ridiculous on this thread.

Unfortantly the courts have ruled that they have their rights to hunt to support their families. It does not give them free running without game laws. They still have to abide with their tribe rules and regulations and can only hunt on their alotted hunting territory,not on any lands that they choose.

Now if your really upset with these rights, what is needed to be done is to contact the Indian Organizations that run and make up the rules for the Indians (or Metis) need to abide by. Instead of flaming and trying to start a war, lets all try to work with them and make sure that they do not abuse their new rights.

It is in all of our rights to make sure the abuse does not happen. The above mentioned of using only part of the animal and leaving the rest is wrong. IF this was brought to the head of Indian Affairs, they would jump on and charge the people involved. Bad publicity is not in their best intrest.

Lets try to work with them, not try to start wars.
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