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Old 02-04-2003 | 10:52 AM
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I was at a meeting recently where Fish and Wildlife presented a list of "Proposed Changes" and "Changes Under Consideration" to the hunting regulations.

Two of the "under consideration" changes were 1. ...to allow non-resident (Canadians) to purchase antlerless licenses. And 2....remove the hunter host requirement for non-resident (Canadians).

So Canadians could then come to Alberta and buy a general Whitetail license and if they wanted a "doe permit" and hunt for whitetail deer in Alberta without having to hire a guide/outfitter or going out with a resident (Hunter Host).

If these two items make it up to the "proposed changes" list I will let you know.

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Old 02-04-2003 | 04:22 PM
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I believe this "consideration" Should be made CANADA WIDE!! I dont think it makes much "common sense" for me not to be able to hunt anywhere in "MY" country.

I think the Hunter host is a good idea for people who have friends from the USA that they want to bring hunting( FOR NO PROFIT!). I think this also need to be relooked at. And make it 2 people that can be non family members!!

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Old 02-05-2003 | 08:03 AM
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I think the Hunter host is a good idea for people who have friends from the USA that they want to bring hunting( FOR NO PROFIT!). I think this also need to be relooked at. And make it 2 people that can be non family members!!

I can understand what you might be feeling here Nicholal and I'm not trying to pick a fight. But even if a person comes up there to hunt, they are still going to be spending $$ in your country. Possibly not as much, but they still will.





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Old 02-05-2003 | 12:29 PM
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I think the Hunter host is a good idea for people who have friends from the USA that they want to bring hunting( FOR NO PROFIT!). I think this also need to be relooked at. And make it 2 people that can be non family members!!

I can understand what you might be feeling here Nicholal and I'm not trying to pick a fight. But even if a person comes up there to hunt, they are still going to be spending $$ in your country. Possibly not as much, but they still will.





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Think you missed what i was sayn stump

I want to have 2 people form the usa to hunt with me. AS of Right now only one can. So if may friends come up only one can hunt and one has to be the camp keeper. So 2 on a hunter host would be better!!.

And money is no an object! AS i could care less how much my friends spend in my country. As all the food at my place is taken care of by me.

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Old 02-05-2003 | 12:47 PM
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Oops sorry. I did misunderstand what you said. Now it's clear. I do fully agree with you. That would be much better. My apologies. So when can I come up and hunt? he, he

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Old 02-06-2003 | 08:33 PM
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As far as the hunter host for whitetails in alberta, that has long been a sore spot for Sask. guys. B/C here you can just go on your own in the Canadian Resident Seasons. Many guys have been p'd about guys jumping our border to hunt on their own in large groups, but not been afforded the same opportuntity. So I agree it should be the same across the board, either way. However Sask. DNR through opposition has limited the non-resident season in recent years to only 1-week for central & southern WMZ's. The northern season is the same for residents, canadians and non-resident hunters for whitetail deer (however only saskatchewan residents can harvest does if applicable, all others is 1 either-sex whitetail tag)

As to the non-resident thing, I think it is to weed out the not so honest &quot;NOT FOR PROFIT&quot; guys. How would the wildlife department know if these people are friends, family or even not paying. I know of one such outfitter in Sask. that had land up north but guided his guys in non-outfitting area, his clients knew the score and were all to willing to keep Mum. This went on for a number of seasons even after the DNR were notified about his practices, finally they caught him and he recvd a 2 year suspension of outfitting and hunting rights...he is now back in business. So yes it can and does happen. In sask. non-residents of canada can only hunt with a licensed outfitter in their determined area. So they must pay for the service.(this is only in northern locations or indian reserves that have outfitting business). This is for whitetail deer & bear.



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Old 02-07-2003 | 11:23 AM
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Duffy...our province has a way of screwing anything &quot;new&quot; up. I'm satisfied with the way our laws are now. I see quite a few Non-res hunters when I head out as it is now. Not crazy about fighting with more people for a spot to park my truck...especially ones who may not follow rules because they &quot;aren't from here&quot;. Just my opinion. JDinAB
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Old 02-08-2003 | 09:45 AM
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Hey JD
You say you see &quot;quite a few Non-res hunters&quot;, how many would that be and how do you know they are Non-res. ? As it is now Non-res. Canadians and aliens have to hire a guide outfitter or go out with a Hunter Host to hunt deer. From what I have heard there really are very few of them that come to Alberta. I know of severak Alberta past residents who have moved elswhere in Canada and would like to come back in the fall to hunt whitetails in there old favorite haunts. It is fairly difficult to do this as it is now but if the above mentioned changes were made they could easily come back.

I can (and have) go to SASK. and buy a licence over the counter to hunt whitetails unguided but our SASK. friends cannot come here to Alberta as easily.

I believe the main reason for the &quot;under consideration&quot; change is to try to have more whitetail deer harvested in some areas. There are too many whitetails in some areas and the resident hunters are just not cropping them down.

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Old 02-08-2003 | 01:48 PM
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Duffy I agree with you it should be the same in both provinces, regardless of what that maybe. Like I mentioned it is a HUGE sore spot for many guys here and we do see a number of hunters from various parts of the country hunting our spots. Although the deer are in need to be kept in check here as well, many of those hunters aren't after a deer but rather &quot;THE DEER&quot;. It creates more pressure on the buck herd and ulitmately creates a bit of resentment on the part of hunter in saskatchewan, since we are not afforded the same luxury in alberta. I have many friends who have moved to alberta over the years, all of whom still comeback to sask. to hunt their old spots and can do so in high numbers not just 1 or 2. It has to parellell, IMO.

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Old 02-10-2003 | 11:58 AM
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Duffy...I headed up North this season for 4 day's and in that time I ran into 12 different non-res hunters from the US & Canada (all within 2 square km's). How do I know? I talked to them as they were dropped off by their guides or as I passed them in the bush. I am just seeing more in my old haunts these days and it just get's a little frustrating. AB is growing alot more than Sask, these days and permission is just getting harder and harder to get due to the pressure and lack of land in some places. I don't think Sask. has quite the same growing pains right now.
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