well..here is what i think..ive seen alot of questions asked on this forum..(differant name..lost my password so registered again)..and it just seems to me that answers are wishy-washy when answered by so called board members or those in authority except for judy she is pretty clear.....if you dont agree then why does it most times take more than 1 reply to get a simple rule clarificatin...ie..ej........when it is a simple question.....if you guys are the rules commitee then clarify the rule and thats that.............

ps....if i where in your shoe i would have the same attitude

Maybe ... often it is not the answer I want.

If I ask for it different or ask it again.... maybe I can get an answer I want!!!
There that's it.
This question began as a simple what is it..
12 inches from point of attachment....
Point of attachment to what??? As a basis I / (as most would, I think) we assume the bow. In this case the riser.
In this question how can we consider an omni coupler/ extension/ quick detach/ vibration dampener/etc. as not part of a measurement for the total.
There are several stabilizers made that are 11.75 inches in length. Put the above ad ons to them and you got maybe 24 inches of stabilizer.
But my stabilized is just 11.75 in.
How about just the coupler and the stabilizer?
How about the dampener? How about the dampener and a short coupler?
etc.etc. etc.
You guys know what I mean.

But first and foremost, everytime you wonder....... ask the question.
There are no bad questions..
ken12