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Old 01-02-2005 | 06:33 PM
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OH I'm sure you get a prize but it is not a material one...more of a sense of accomplishment you'll feel when as an offical Monster Whitetail Club member you have succeded in Pa land being gobbled up by outfitters for lease posted against your tresspass, hunters give up hunting at record rates because they don't see enough deer to hunt on public land, even less new hunters entering the sport,and so many more thrills you as a member can take so much pride in accomplishing.

BTW I do think they give out some sort of ring like the old Oscar Meyer weiner truck, but they hold back on the truck.
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Old 01-02-2005 | 06:40 PM
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Old 01-02-2005 | 06:43 PM
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Look at the latest craze now... look in Walmart, Cabelas, etc., people are selling feeders and seed for food plots.
CattNY dont you agree that theres a huge difference between dumping feed and food plots??? ( for the record, I dont participate in either) Why is a food plot any different than hunting under an apple tree? a white oak? or next to a corn field?

I see the bags of corn at WalMart and find it just as disturbing as you do but thats not the same as planting a food plot. Our own PGC does that on some of our game lands!!!
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Old 01-02-2005 | 06:57 PM
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Can you explain what the differnce would be between planting five acreas of corn that was planted for the specific purpose of feeding wildlife with no intent to harvest it, or the same quantity of corn spread over the same area with the specific purpose of feeding wildlife?
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Old 01-02-2005 | 07:06 PM
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If you intend to hunt over either....

The first is perfectly legal (and our PGC does just that on selected gamelands)

The second is considered baiting by the law and is illegal

If you have no intent to hunt over or utilize game patterns established by it either then there is no real difference

BTW, you avoided my question by answering it with your own question.
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Old 01-02-2005 | 07:13 PM
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there is no difference. Both are an effort to maintain a population higher than what the native habitat can support. (I'm not taking a position that you can't do it) But food plots planted just for hunting are the same as dumping feed in a pile. Same-Same.

If you were improving native vegetation for all species, then you would be a resource first type, but if your just planting a plot for one or two species then your a wannabe. [:'(]
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Old 01-02-2005 | 07:15 PM
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Bob,

I have a gravity feeder with 200# of double cleaned shelled corn out right now in the middle of a BioLogic food plot. It will stay up well into the summer to help the herd through the winter. The main reason I have it up is the lack of a acorn crop this past few years has been tough on the herd. The corn is all gone now, and there is very little left to eat for the deer, so I help out in any way possible.

Now, as far as this feeder pulling deer off other property and getting hit hard, that is hardly the case. The deer move into the BioLogic and will just get a little corn then feed on the BioLogic. This feeder does get alot of use from squirrels, birds, and raccoons though.

As far as attracting predators, well, this isn't much of a problem around here. There are some coyotes around, but the farmer up the road hires guys to trap coyotes off his land and in the past couple years, the coyotes are all but gone! Also, this feeder is located literally in my backyard as the back part of my yard has been turned into a foodplot!

As far as disease goes, this is something that is impossible to prove and impossible to find un-true. Deer congregate in many areas (stageing areas, fields, ect.), not to mention in the winter they usually yard up in large groups!
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Old 01-02-2005 | 07:16 PM
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OK MikeE, why is any buck taken on public ground a trophy but not any deer? Isnt the horn hunting/ wannabe thing just a matter of personal standards? Why is a 3.1 inch spike better than a doe?
Hey BT, I shoot does too. With HR severely impacting my area, they are trophies also.
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Old 01-02-2005 | 07:27 PM
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there is no difference. Both are an effort to maintain a population higher than what the native habitat can support. (I'm not taking a position that you can't do it) But food plots planted just for hunting are the same as dumping feed in a pile. Same-Same.
one is legal, one is not unles you have no regard for the law, they are NOT the same

If you were improving native vegetation for all species, then you would be a resource first type, but if your just planting a plot for one or two species then your a wannabe.
Chicory, you have avoided this question before but I'll ask again, How about giving us your definition of a wannabe????
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Old 01-02-2005 | 07:32 PM
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Jason,

I know you dont hunt over your feeder so I see nothing wrong with it. Several years ago, I used to have several very prolific apple trees and would haul apples up to my camp to feed/ watch deer. (no one was ever allowed to hunt anywhere near that area. as a matter of fact, we hunted over 5 miles from there)
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