I guess you still don't see it. There is Sunday hunting and I do hunt those animals that are allowed to be hunted on SUNDAY. AS far as you saying that I fall into the Anti category because i Hunt what is allowed to be hunted on sundays then so be it. My point in this whole thing was that there is only one MAIN reason people want Sunday hunting and that is they want to hunt DEER, no matter how much you argue about it not being that, it is exactly that. and again i say they are the same people that complained that they aren't seeing any deer now, imagine instead of only 1 million people hunting there are now 2 million hunting in PA cause that is just what you did by opening it on Sunday. And you say that will have no effect on the population? But hey if you want DEER hunting on Sunday then I guess we should give it to you. But don't whine and cry that you aren't seeing any deer. Guess i'll just keep doing what I do and take vacation during the week and enjoy the time when there aren't 1 million people in the woods.

No one has any idea why sunday hunting is banned in Pa.I have yet to hear one legitimate reason why it should be.I do know that it has nothing to do with putting added pressure on our deer herd.Where has everyone been the last 5 years?The biggest goal in our deer management plan is to greatly reduce the herd,which according to Alt hasn't been successful.DCNR,the audubon and several other orginizations are supporting sunday hunting for that reason alone.It's an old law that makes no sense and needs to be changed.However,the pgc has nothing to do with getting it done.It's up to the state legislature and it's a very political issue.In order for a stupid law like this to stay on the books,someone should have to prove it's necessary and back up those claims with valid research and documentation.Emotions should never take precedence over common sense but unfortunately thats the case here.

With hunter numbers dwindling,added pressure will not be put on the the animals.
If safety is an issue,how come none of you area afraid to enter the woods when you hunt?Besides,I've yet to see a family taking a stroll in the woods during decenber.The animals already get plenty of rest during the week when everyone is working.

ROFLOL. Come on Pat, admit it, there's no legitimate reason that game managers shouldn't set seasons and bag limits seven days a week. You're in denial of all the evidence from all those 40 or so states that have tried it. Facts Pat, not emotionalism, exageration and rhetorical fallacies. Scientific game management by game managers, seven days a week works. Inclusion, not exclusion. We don't have 1 million hunters in the woods on any day and we'll never have 2 million. Our numbers are already something like 20% or so off the peak years. Even in firearms deer season there's only 2-3 days when the majority of those hunters are in the woods and they are almost empty on those other days. The numbers of hunters for squirrels and other small game are down by almost 70% from our peak years and harvest data per day for almost every small game species remains steady.

Facts Pat. Scientific game management by game managers works, seven days a week.

There is no evidence to support any of your concerns. There is no legitimate reason this outdated law should still be on the books. There is no justification for treating hunters as second class citizens one day a week.

I guess you still haven't seen it. I hunt what is Legal to hunt on Sundays and the PGC will probably not allow anything else to be hunted on Sundays, so really this debate is mute. My point was there is hunting on Sunday but if it's not what you like to hunt it is a Stupid antiquated law? If you aren't worried about what you can hunt on Sundays then by all means if you live in PA and want to come hunt coyotes with me I would love to have another gun there to help me harvest a few of em. Heck we could even pull up a couple of lawn chairs and get those crows fired up and attacking an Owl decoy, we could even just sit and enjoy being out there.

Pat, You're the one who seems to be missing the boat. I wouldn't oppose the Sunday ban if it were a game regulation passed by game managers because of a need to control hunters numbers, or participation or some other legitimate game management purpose, but it's not. It's an outdated law, a remnant of a time of religious intolerance, that now singles out only hunters as a class of citizens, denied participation merely because of what day of the week it happens to be, and while all other similar laws have been revoked, it remains in place, banning those game managers from allowing any Sunday hunting for any game animals.

There is no evidence to support any of your concerns. There is no legitimate reason this outdated law should still be on the books. There is no justification for treating hunters as second class citizens one day a week.

Game management should be done by game managers, seven days a week.

Admit it, there is no legitimate reason for this law.

Did ya ever think that the PGC hasn't pushed for it to BE changed? But I guess since you say I missed the boat then the sunday hunting I do is on my own little lost Island in Susquehanna County Pa. Like I have already said this debate is mute due to the fact that neither of us can come to mutual ground other than that I am a PA hunter and I guess you are too. But i am entitled to my opinion as you are. And everything I have stated is my Opinion and not a Political agenda. I could care less whether our politicians pass it or not. I will still have the same opinion as I do now. So I guess we are at an impass.

The PGC has stated that are not yet ready to go to one side or the other. They put out a press release, last year I believe, that basically said at this time the PGC remains nuetral on the issue.

i work in politics, in harrisburg. i've been told that there simply aren't the votes in either chamber to pass this bill, so the issue is probably mute for now.

ruffed grouse, if you ever run for office, give me a yell. you'd be hell on the stump.

Pat Ely, you defended your position well. If i ever figure out how to hunt coyote, i'd love to go with you.

Sorry Boysda. Got carried away with some other things like hunting season and lost track of this one till I went searching for another similar thread that some moderator must have zapped.

Thanks for the offer, but don't think I'm pretty enough nor coiffed quite adequately to take to the stump except for defending hunting as a Freedom, but appreciate the offer anyway.

Will probably make it up your way to argue our Freedoms as hunters should be ruled by the same standards as the Freedoms of others when we finally see a hearing on the matter. Maybe you me and Pat could get together when he shows up to voice a differing opinion.

Sunday hunting should be private land only.The public lands sure don't need another full day of doe killing.Heck let's let a few out there anyway.