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BTBowhunter 09-27-2004 04:52 PM

RE: Alt on Penna. Outdoor Life
 

If hunters would have passed on the 68 K BB in 2003, 15-20% of those deer would have died from normal ,non-hunting mortality. So , 68K X.15 = 1020 deer wasted. That equates to a waste of 20,400 lbs. of venison. Therefore, you should congradulate our group for not wasting 120 lbs. of perfectly good venison.
Absolute proof that DD is willing, ready, and able to twist and pervert the numbers to make whatever point he wants to make no matter how ridiculous.

Figures don't lie but liars sure can figure!!!!![:'(]

deaddeer 09-27-2004 05:23 PM

RE: Alt on Penna. Outdoor Life
 

Absolute proof that DD is willing, ready, and able to twist and pervert the numbers to make whatever point he wants to make no matter how ridiculous.

Figures don't lie but liars sure can figure!!!!!
You made an accussation , now I challenge you to support it with facts. Show everyone what stat I posted was wrong. Show everyone how I twisted and perverted the numbers. You can't do it because you couldn't figure your way out of a paper bag if one end was open.

TXhighrack 09-27-2004 09:41 PM

RE: Alt on Penna. Outdoor Life
 
14 pages of bullcrap, its the same thing over and over. Isint hunting season around the corner? Dont you guys have to get ready for it??

MikeE51848 09-28-2004 06:30 AM

RE: Alt on Penna. Outdoor Life
 
Why is it we never see a PA deer hunt on the OLN channel or any other one for that matter, but we see lots of Texas deer hunts? It's not because our racks are small, because you can find huge racks in SW and SE PA. Maybe it's because it's so easy to kill a deer in Texas, on someone's private ranch, over bait?
From Texas game regs:

Magazine Capacity (number of shells/cartridges allowed): There are no restrictions on the number of shells or cartridges a legal firearm may hold when hunting game animals
and

Baiting for game animals, nongame animals, and game birds is lawful on private property,
What'sa matter, things too boring on your board, like your deer hunting?

livbucks 09-28-2004 06:45 AM

RE: Alt on Penna. Outdoor Life
 
I would agree to a degree that PA bucks are very wild and are chased hard and learn to survive the hunting pressure. Texas ranches are a very different experience in some ways. I would not characterize ALL Texas deer hunting as being easy though. I am sure that there are alot of wild areas and wild deer in Texas. Lets be fair and not start a war between PA and Texas.

livbucks 09-28-2004 09:12 AM

RE: Alt on Penna. Outdoor Life
 

14 pages of bullcrap, its the same thing over and over. Isint hunting season around the corner? Dont you guys have to get ready for it??
Im ready to go. I prepare all year, I could go hunting at a moments notice.

BTBowhunter 09-28-2004 06:42 PM

RE: Alt on Penna. Outdoor Life
 
I'm ready......

Ready for an even better year with some of those 3.5+ bucks out there!

Ready to do my part helping with the necessary HR by killing does!

Ready to pass on BB's and teach my boys to do the same!

Ready to continue to support an evolving deer management program aimed at a more suitable BD ratio, aimed at balance with the habitat, aimed at more sensible deer numbers, aimed at helping prove the selfish whiners that just cant let go of the past bad practices as wrong wrong wrong!

Oh yeah, the bow is tuned, camo and pack ready, treestands up, landowners schmoozed, hopefully, enough brownie points deposited in the wife bank to keep me out of divorce court......
YUP, READY!!!!

TXhighrack 09-28-2004 10:34 PM

RE: Alt on Penna. Outdoor Life
 
Mike:

I think the reason why you see so many hunts from Texas on T.V is because the tags are unlimited, the bag limits are very liberal, there are thousands of private ranches to hunt, the hunts are easy to film, there are alot of deer, alot of activity, and a very good shot of filming a big buck getting killed. I think the main reason why you dont see many PA hunts on T.V is because most hunters wouldnt be interested in watching the show and/or it would be to hard to film a show.



Maybe it's because it's so easy to kill a deer in Texas, on someone's private ranch, over bait?
Yeah its easy to kill a deer around here, mainly because we have so many running around. But most of us set are goals really high and pass on dozens of bucks each year. Personally I only shoot mature bucks
(5 1/2+) so that in it self makes hunting more fun and challenging.


I do have one question, whats the point in posting Tx regulations in your last post?? Aint a damn thing wrong with any of it. Its not like any Texan is going to denie the fact that baiting is legal (which it should be).



What'sa matter, things too boring on your board
Yeah actually it is, over there we dont have 14 pages that have to do with shooting Button bucks and/or the dpqm. :D

chickory 09-29-2004 09:11 AM

RE: Alt on Penna. Outdoor Life
 
Shows how some dullards can read, but cannot comprehend.

Pa is going through the biggest changes in hunting in 75 years, and you don't think anyone is going discuss it on a message board?

BWWWAhaaahaaaahaaaaa........ too funny!

Unlike some sports where people have no real deep thought or convictions on the subject...we are talking about Pa deer hunting traditions. Get it?

Outdoor life featured the deer camp next to ours on one of its magazine covers, and did a story on its traditions and longevity and the family that hunted there for 50 years. They take thier hunting serious, and have never had a population huge enough to get picky and turn down certain bucks because they didn't have the proper head gear.

Pa is a huge deer hunting state that takes the privledge very seriously. Apparently much more serious than the flippant hunters of Texas.

Yea, you can be guaranteed that hunters in Pa WILL be discussing the most controversial deer manager the PGC has ever had (by thier own words), and they will discuss the biggest changes in 75 years for a while...... you have to be daft to think otherwise.

It might be no big deal if the PGC was attempting to provide more bucks and more deer to hunt, but they aren't they are telling hunters they would like to cut the Penna deer herd by half. Which in case you are poor in math, means less opportunity for eveyone and we have experienced three straight years of declining buck harvests.

If they decided to cut the herd in Texas by half I bet it would generate a bit of discussion on the Texas boards too...... Doh...;)

By the way the camp that was once featured on the cover of Outdoor life will sit empty for the first year in many, many years. The sons no longer will make the trip since deer numbers have dropped and success rates have dropped in 4d. As one of the boys said at the end of last season "It ain't worth making the trip anymore". Thier camp hunted for a week and saw nothing shootable.

Now thats a big problem for Penna traditions and hunters.

And that is worth talking about if you are interested in the future of Pa hunting.

livbucks 09-29-2004 10:57 AM

RE: Alt on Penna. Outdoor Life
 
This is great. Our debate is now in Third person. Gotta keep it interesting I guess.


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