Scent ban in Pa?
#52
Spike
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 62
Hmmmm, no science huh, how about the latest study by the University Of Texas and their study of how prions can actually bind to plant material! Here let me link you to that since you seem incapable of doing any basic research http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2015/0.../#.Vd0FR_ZVhBc I'll also put a small quote from that posted report here
Much more information in the page but you get the point. There is a ton of ongoing research with this mysterious disease and it is up to us as conservationists to try our best to combat the spread of it. The real demon of this disease is TIME. It's a slowly progressive disease which makes combating it difficult to say the least. Prions aren't bacteria or virus. It's a protein that's basically misfiring. A mutation if you will.
I really don't see how you can say half the stuff you are blathering on about. The disease is known, it's affects are known, it's destructiveness and cruelty are known. How it's transmitted is becoming known now with all this research and study. Scientists don't know everything about it yet but they are getting a handle on the specifics and trying their best to put this disease to rest.
Shining a light on a subject does little for the blind.
Much more information in the page but you get the point. There is a ton of ongoing research with this mysterious disease and it is up to us as conservationists to try our best to combat the spread of it. The real demon of this disease is TIME. It's a slowly progressive disease which makes combating it difficult to say the least. Prions aren't bacteria or virus. It's a protein that's basically misfiring. A mutation if you will.
I really don't see how you can say half the stuff you are blathering on about. The disease is known, it's affects are known, it's destructiveness and cruelty are known. How it's transmitted is becoming known now with all this research and study. Scientists don't know everything about it yet but they are getting a handle on the specifics and trying their best to put this disease to rest.
Shining a light on a subject does little for the blind.
#53
Spike
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 62
Show the deaths...Show the tests of CWD found in a CWD positive deer. Some schmuck sticking a needle into a mouse is a far cry from a disease thats going to kill herds off.. Heck its only been 60 years now. Maybe in another 60 we will see what this stuff will do. Because as of now its doing absolutely nothing!!!! Period!
#54
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Allegan, MI
Posts: 8,019
Another one that runs off at the trap with no facts. Until you few can put up any hardcore facts you are just pissing in the wind.
Show the deaths...Show the tests of CWD found in a CWD positive deer. Some schmuck sticking a needle into a mouse is a far cry from a disease thats going to kill herds off.. Heck its only been 60 years now. Maybe in another 60 we will see what this stuff will do. Because as of now its doing absolutely nothing!!!! Period!
Show the deaths...Show the tests of CWD found in a CWD positive deer. Some schmuck sticking a needle into a mouse is a far cry from a disease thats going to kill herds off.. Heck its only been 60 years now. Maybe in another 60 we will see what this stuff will do. Because as of now its doing absolutely nothing!!!! Period!
#55
Spike
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 62
What, may I ask, is your occupation and level of learning to be spewing all this BS when there is plenty of science based facts out there to negate what you are saying? My guess is that you are either a clone of our ignorant deer farmer or maybe the same person using another computer and username to spout the same ignorant BS as the previous deer farmer whose thread got deleted or maybe someone who is in the urine based scent industry and has a lot to lose if they are outlawed! Nobody without a stake in the game would be spouting the BS you are!
#56
Mods, I've held my tongue here but this guy has ranted his complete and utter nonsense a bit to long.
Okay buddy, how about some pictures of deer with this so called non-deadly disease
And that is just a few. Also note that I only posted pictures of deer found during good crop/browse season so this guy couldn't say that they were starving because of lack of browse. Each and every one of those deer tested POSITIVE for CWD several of which were found dead NOT from hunters or cars but from the disease! Still think it's a joke? And that is just a few pictures of the HUNDREDS of deer found with the disease! Opened your eyes yet? Is money that god awful important to you that you would completely close your eyes and try to close others eyes to a simple and easy to see FACT? You must not give a single solitary damn about our wildlife and are a despicable waste of life in my book. ANYONE that says this disease is not a horrendous and just flat out cruel way to die has absolutely no humanity in them whatsoever. There have been facts posted on here that you choose to either ignore or are just too ignorant to understand even though I have tried my best to dumb it down for you. Links with facts have been provided which you seem to want to choose to ignore. Forums such as this that are providing actual truth and not what you deer farmers want people to know must scare the heck out of you. Affecting your bottom line? GOOD! If it were up to me I would put each and every one of you zoo shooting operations out of business. LMAO@ 100 acres high fenced and calling it "hunting". There's not a TRUE sportsman breathing that would call an establishment like that a "hunting destination".
Now be gone little one. If this didn't educate you nothing on this planet will.
Okay buddy, how about some pictures of deer with this so called non-deadly disease
And that is just a few. Also note that I only posted pictures of deer found during good crop/browse season so this guy couldn't say that they were starving because of lack of browse. Each and every one of those deer tested POSITIVE for CWD several of which were found dead NOT from hunters or cars but from the disease! Still think it's a joke? And that is just a few pictures of the HUNDREDS of deer found with the disease! Opened your eyes yet? Is money that god awful important to you that you would completely close your eyes and try to close others eyes to a simple and easy to see FACT? You must not give a single solitary damn about our wildlife and are a despicable waste of life in my book. ANYONE that says this disease is not a horrendous and just flat out cruel way to die has absolutely no humanity in them whatsoever. There have been facts posted on here that you choose to either ignore or are just too ignorant to understand even though I have tried my best to dumb it down for you. Links with facts have been provided which you seem to want to choose to ignore. Forums such as this that are providing actual truth and not what you deer farmers want people to know must scare the heck out of you. Affecting your bottom line? GOOD! If it were up to me I would put each and every one of you zoo shooting operations out of business. LMAO@ 100 acres high fenced and calling it "hunting". There's not a TRUE sportsman breathing that would call an establishment like that a "hunting destination".
Now be gone little one. If this didn't educate you nothing on this planet will.
#57
Spike
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 5
BigTime1 please stop you will never change their minds your beating your head on a brick wall even though your stating good facts. It's not about the CWD. It's about deer farms and hunting preserves they hate them with a passion that's all this is about they want them shut down that's why they're ok with banning scents. Sorry Topgun3006 I'm still on here I did ask the moderator to delete my account but I'm still here...
#58
Spike
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 62
Mods, I've held my tongue here but this guy has ranted his complete and utter nonsense a bit to long.
Okay buddy, how about some pictures of deer with this so called non-deadly disease
And that is just a few. Also note that I only posted pictures of deer found during good crop/browse season so this guy couldn't say that they were starving because of lack of browse. Each and every one of those deer tested POSITIVE for CWD several of which were found dead NOT from hunters or cars but from the disease! Still think it's a joke? And that is just a few pictures of the HUNDREDS of deer found with the disease! Opened your eyes yet? Is money that god awful important to you that you would completely close your eyes and try to close others eyes to a simple and easy to see FACT? You must not give a single solitary damn about our wildlife and are a despicable waste of life in my book. ANYONE that says this disease is not a horrendous and just flat out cruel way to die has absolutely no humanity in them whatsoever. There have been facts posted on here that you choose to either ignore or are just too ignorant to understand even though I have tried my best to dumb it down for you. Links with facts have been provided which you seem to want to choose to ignore. Forums such as this that are providing actual truth and not what you deer farmers want people to know must scare the heck out of you. Affecting your bottom line? GOOD! If it were up to me I would put each and every one of you zoo shooting operations out of business. LMAO@ 100 acres high fenced and calling it "hunting". There's not a TRUE sportsman breathing that would call an establishment like that a "hunting destination".
Now be gone little one. If this didn't educate you nothing on this planet will.
Okay buddy, how about some pictures of deer with this so called non-deadly disease
And that is just a few. Also note that I only posted pictures of deer found during good crop/browse season so this guy couldn't say that they were starving because of lack of browse. Each and every one of those deer tested POSITIVE for CWD several of which were found dead NOT from hunters or cars but from the disease! Still think it's a joke? And that is just a few pictures of the HUNDREDS of deer found with the disease! Opened your eyes yet? Is money that god awful important to you that you would completely close your eyes and try to close others eyes to a simple and easy to see FACT? You must not give a single solitary damn about our wildlife and are a despicable waste of life in my book. ANYONE that says this disease is not a horrendous and just flat out cruel way to die has absolutely no humanity in them whatsoever. There have been facts posted on here that you choose to either ignore or are just too ignorant to understand even though I have tried my best to dumb it down for you. Links with facts have been provided which you seem to want to choose to ignore. Forums such as this that are providing actual truth and not what you deer farmers want people to know must scare the heck out of you. Affecting your bottom line? GOOD! If it were up to me I would put each and every one of you zoo shooting operations out of business. LMAO@ 100 acres high fenced and calling it "hunting". There's not a TRUE sportsman breathing that would call an establishment like that a "hunting destination".
Now be gone little one. If this didn't educate you nothing on this planet will.
Fact is....You say these deer all died of CWD yet you cant show just 1 documented case where a deer died from CWD. And to get back at the subject at hand....You cant show the CWD prion in whitetail deer urine. All you have is your agenda pushing thoughts of something that you dont like. Which is really none of your business. Your kind are the first ones put into a nice preserve and walk out empty handed. Seen it over and over. Until you can come up with science and documented proof that the CWD prion has been spread by urine you have nothing but speculations. I am sure there are much smarter people than you or i trying to prove this everyday. Without success.
Back to your google search with you. Come back when you really have something of value on CWD..Not EHD. Thanks!
#59
While we have our views on your deer farms and "hunting preserves" the issue with CWD, urine scents, and your operation are two separate issues. We don't dislike one because the operation it is attached to. Since the topic started with deer scents (urine) and our views expressed from the beginning of this thread reflect that, I don't see how you could even correlate your operation to our views.
#60
Spike
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 62
While we have our views on your deer farms and "hunting preserves" the issue with CWD, urine scents, and your operation are two separate issues. We don't dislike one because the operation it is attached to. Since the topic started with deer scents (urine) and our views expressed from the beginning of this thread reflect that, I don't see how you could even correlate your operation to our views.
He has nothing but agenda to back up his statements as has been shown over and over. He has nothing on the CWD prion and proof its spread in urine by the whitetail deer. Period!