No saturday deer opener in pa.
#31
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2010
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I want my son to have success too when I eventually take him out, but I also want to teach him that it's not about the harvest, its about the time in the woods, the peace, being away from the crap in the every day world.
#32

keep their interest I want them to taste success as well.Time in the woods is for preparation for a safe and successful outting.
#33

Especially to the big farmers. We have a farmer that shoots deer out of his fields (Even fields he leases, not owns) all year long. I found two 8 points, a 7 and a 6 point early in the fall one year. Plus several doe. All the bucks were still in velvet and within 100 yards of the field edge. That tells me he's gut shooting them, they're running down into the woods and dying.

I want my son to have success too when I eventually take him out, but I also want to teach him that it's not about the harvest, its about the time in the woods, the peace, being away from the crap in the every day world.
When you take your kid fishing for the first time, will you take him to catch sunnies? Since it's not about the harvest, I say no. Take him out musky fishing. Tell him that fishing all day without a strike is all about peace and quiet and being with nature.
Plenty of time for peace and quiet in the woods while still getting a deer once in a while.
#34
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 110

And he'll get plenty of that. But kids need to have some level of success to keep their interest. It's just that simple.
When you take your kid fishing for the first time, will you take him to catch sunnies? Since it's not about the harvest, I say no. Take him out musky fishing. Tell him that fishing all day without a strike is all about peace and quiet and being with nature.
Plenty of time for peace and quiet in the woods while still getting a deer once in a while.
When you take your kid fishing for the first time, will you take him to catch sunnies? Since it's not about the harvest, I say no. Take him out musky fishing. Tell him that fishing all day without a strike is all about peace and quiet and being with nature.
Plenty of time for peace and quiet in the woods while still getting a deer once in a while.
#35

Hunting, yes I want him to be successful, but not to shoot the first deer he sees,
That's about 18-20 days of hunting and one deer. Trust me, he's got the peace and quiet experience, the passing up deer experience and the experience of spending countless hours in the field with nothing on the pole.
You can teach him all about that and still give him reasonable odds for success.
Kids have shorter attention spans. Success helps.
I wasn't allowed to hunt until I was 12. My kid doesn't have to wait. That's a good thing in my book.
Lot's of guys are bitter over the whole mentored youth thing. I don't get it. Try looking for the good in situations once in a while.

#37

I don't think anyone is bitter over the youth hunting. Getting kids out there is great. It's the ppl that are abusing it that cause the problem. And there are a lot of them. There's going to be poaching going on no matter what laws they make. But, having kids be able to put a tag on whatever helps ppl that want to shoot more than allowed and helps party hunters. It also helps ppl that want to spend time with their kids in the woods. Gotta weigh the rewards I guess.
-Jake
-Jake
#38

Mentored youth cannot shoot doe. Plus, I have him out all archery season. Between all the deer that are out of archery range and all the doe, he passes on plenty of deer. We spent every Saturday in October and two Saturdays in November before he got his spike in 2009. In 2010, we spent every Saturday of the entire deer season out and got nothing.
That's about 18-20 days of hunting and one deer. Trust me, he's got the peace and quiet experience, the passing up deer experience and the experience of spending countless hours in the field with nothing on the pole.
You can teach him all about that and still give him reasonable odds for success.
Kids have shorter attention spans. Success helps.
I wasn't allowed to hunt until I was 12. My kid doesn't have to wait. That's a good thing in my book.
Lot's of guys are bitter over the whole mentored youth thing. I don't get it. Try looking for the good in situations once in a while.
That's about 18-20 days of hunting and one deer. Trust me, he's got the peace and quiet experience, the passing up deer experience and the experience of spending countless hours in the field with nothing on the pole.
You can teach him all about that and still give him reasonable odds for success.
Kids have shorter attention spans. Success helps.
I wasn't allowed to hunt until I was 12. My kid doesn't have to wait. That's a good thing in my book.
Lot's of guys are bitter over the whole mentored youth thing. I don't get it. Try looking for the good in situations once in a while.

Minds wonder.. Success helps this immensely.
Serious Accidents happen when your bored and your mind isn't
on the job at hand.
Last edited by Jeff Ovington; 03-11-2011 at 11:03 AM.
#39
Giant Nontypical
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: PA.
Posts: 5,195

YOU FIGURE.
#40
Giant Nontypical
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: PA.
Posts: 5,195

I don't think anyone is bitter over the youth hunting. Getting kids out there is great. It's the ppl that are abusing it that cause the problem. And there are a lot of them. There's going to be poaching going on no matter what laws they make. But, having kids be able to put a tag on whatever helps ppl that want to shoot more than allowed and helps party hunters. It also helps ppl that want to spend time with their kids in the woods. Gotta weigh the rewards I guess.
-Jake
-Jake
trust me,KIDS ARE NOT IN WOODS. ONES I SEE ARE SITTING IN TRUCK with radio turned on.that is very few. yes maybe 1 or 2 are sitting with dad if they are on privateland but i see NO ONE DOING IT ON PUBLICLAND.
but mostly they are not even around.
most mothers are not letting their 5yr to 12 yr old kid out in woods.
I KNOW THAT FOR FACT.no way its happening in gun season.
yet the butcher shop has over 50% spike bucks shot by mentoured youth, 50% spikes yet kids dont know where they got buck or what gun they used.
1 young 8 yr old girl said at butcher shop,MY DAD TOLD ME TO TELL YOU i USED A WEE-O-08 .
i know slobs that are doing this ,i know they are doing it.35 degrees with sneakers on,dont get me started on that one.