stop complainin...start hunting
02-04-2010, 02:10 PM
#211
Nontypical Buck
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As i pointed out before , the turkey population and the bear population increased as the deer herd increased. Other species such as grouse and snow shoes are more affected by forestry practices and competing species than they are by the deer. How much grouse habitat would you expect to find in DCNR's old growth forests in the stands of pole timber.
02-04-2010, 02:13 PM
#212
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I think youre getting worked up over nothing doug. I see bb saying how many more deer he thinks could survive, nothing more in your quote. And you agree, to a point. But I dont see where bb is saying we should have that many as you infer???
As for impact, what is acceptable and what isnt is VERY debatable. Most dont see less than maximum stocking of trillium & hobblebush as "unacceptable" or "negative impact". And for most of the state, thats all the further the "damage" has gone, or will go. For most, its absolutely irrelavent....So in that light, there is no damage. There is fine habitat across most of the state by far. And plenty of deer food.
As for impact, what is acceptable and what isnt is VERY debatable. Most dont see less than maximum stocking of trillium & hobblebush as "unacceptable" or "negative impact". And for most of the state, thats all the further the "damage" has gone, or will go. For most, its absolutely irrelavent....So in that light, there is no damage. There is fine habitat across most of the state by far. And plenty of deer food.
Last edited by Cornelius08; 02-04-2010 at 02:20 PM.
02-04-2010, 02:35 PM
#214
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Carbon County Pa.
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02-04-2010, 03:46 PM
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Thats ok Jw!... You keep on keepin' us pennsyltuckians in line. 
The quality of interaction in this forum has improved 10 fold compared to say even 6 months ago when often times, conversation wasnt even possible.
The quality of interaction in this forum has improved 10 fold compared to say even 6 months ago when often times, conversation wasnt even possible.
Last edited by Cornelius08; 02-04-2010 at 03:49 PM.
02-04-2010, 05:33 PM
#218
Giant Nontypical
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02-05-2010, 05:18 AM
#220
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2004
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As i pointed out before , the turkey population and the bear population increased as the deer herd increased. Other species such as grouse and snow shoes are more affected by forestry practices and competing species than they are by the deer. How much grouse habitat would you expect to find in DCNR's old growth forests in the stands of pole timber.
The deer along with other factors have trashed the habitat in the northern tier.It's scientifically proven and not debatable.Sure more deer can survive but at the expense of poor habitat.I'm willing to settle for less deer to see better habitat for the future of the deer,other wildlife and yes the commercial value of the timber that's so vital to the economy of this region.