Does a Pa WCO
#81
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Washington County
Posts: 143
Of course it's true that citizens should have courage and be willing stand against law enforcement abuses but I think you're pretty naive to not understand why someone would be afaid to file a complaint. Do you really find it incomprehensable that an LEO might seek some kind of retribution against someone filing a complaint? Have you ever seen the documentary film "The Largest Street Gang in America"? In it a fellow is secretly filmed entering various police stations around the country and simply, and politely, asks for a complaint form. He was often verbally abused, sometime threatened and once even cuffed and arrested.
The fact is, many (and the number is growing) citizens do not trust law enforcement. They see examples of abuse on the news and in the papers and sometimes even experience it first hand. Please don't insult our intelligence by pretending to not know why a person might be afraid to attach his name to a true and valid complaint.
The fact is, many (and the number is growing) citizens do not trust law enforcement. They see examples of abuse on the news and in the papers and sometimes even experience it first hand. Please don't insult our intelligence by pretending to not know why a person might be afraid to attach his name to a true and valid complaint.
I wasnt trying to insult anyones intelligence. And I surley am not prentending anything. As I said before if nobody does nothing about unaceptable behavior , then there is no chance its going to stop. I was raised to stand up for myself and I sure as heck would not stand by and do nothing. Sometimes it hard to do the right thing but to just throw you hands up and give up will change nothing.
#82
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Upstate New York
Posts: 2,435
As I said before if nobody does nothing about unaceptable behavior , then there is no chance its going to stop. I was raised to stand up for myself and I sure as heck would not stand by and do nothing. Sometimes it hard to do the right thing but to just throw you hands up and give up will change nothing.
Last edited by Sylvan; 02-05-2010 at 03:55 AM.
#83
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 171
I called a WCO three years ago and said a friend of his Dep was hunting over a salt block and had just killed a doe with his bow on opening day of archery season within sight ofa public road...told him I would show him the place and not to bother sending his dep. but to show up in person. He showed up and I showed him everything...the next Monday at work he told my grandson how the WCO had just given him a warning...an let him off with that cause he knew he was pals with his best Dep. And if he finds out whom reported him he'll burn down their house.
Why should we bother to report scofflaws if this is how it's handled? If a WCO let him off with a warning what's to make me think he wouldn't tell him who reported him...i got too much to loose in my livestock/barns/house/equipment to worry about that stuff!
Why should we bother to report scofflaws if this is how it's handled? If a WCO let him off with a warning what's to make me think he wouldn't tell him who reported him...i got too much to loose in my livestock/barns/house/equipment to worry about that stuff!
#84
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: PA.
Posts: 5,195
rwj seems like person with GRIT.i commend him for that.
here is example when BROTHERHOOD etc is involved.
if say a WCO/DWCO is a masonic brother,no way he is going to do anything to another masonic brother.he has to come to his defense....he cant because he takes OATH that he cant.this happens all time in every organization.you mentioned BLUE WALL.
yes it exists .when i was in ny i saw police stick together when complaint was filed even tho they knew that the other officer was not complying with rules.
they have their own BROTHERHOOD...........look at DOCTORS ,a doctor can commit MALPRACTICE and other doctors bury their heads in sand and wil not talk.
it exists and most today are afraid to get involved.look at how a politician goes after another one when they smell blood when something is reported.
here is example when BROTHERHOOD etc is involved.
if say a WCO/DWCO is a masonic brother,no way he is going to do anything to another masonic brother.he has to come to his defense....he cant because he takes OATH that he cant.this happens all time in every organization.you mentioned BLUE WALL.
yes it exists .when i was in ny i saw police stick together when complaint was filed even tho they knew that the other officer was not complying with rules.
they have their own BROTHERHOOD...........look at DOCTORS ,a doctor can commit MALPRACTICE and other doctors bury their heads in sand and wil not talk.
it exists and most today are afraid to get involved.look at how a politician goes after another one when they smell blood when something is reported.