Does a Pa WCO
02-01-2010, 02:09 PM
#51
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Washington County
Posts: 143
It wasn't the fact that the WCO was enforcing the law.
It was because the WCO drove through the field (about 100yds.) up to the oak tree, to write a citation for parking in the very same field.
My buddy was pulled off to the side of the driveway/lane. (the driveway/lane is about 1/4 mile long back to the farm house)
Seems odd to me, that the WCO would drive through a field to write up somebody for parking in the very same field.
This was back around 1986-87.
It was because the WCO drove through the field (about 100yds.) up to the oak tree, to write a citation for parking in the very same field.
My buddy was pulled off to the side of the driveway/lane. (the driveway/lane is about 1/4 mile long back to the farm house)
Seems odd to me, that the WCO would drive through a field to write up somebody for parking in the very same field.
This was back around 1986-87.
02-01-2010, 02:12 PM
#52
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Washington County
Posts: 143
Very true!
I hunted in WV for 16 years. Very proffessional down there.
Always polite and interested in how your day is going andoffer advice/
When was the last time a PA WCO walked up to you and introduced himself and shook you and your buddies' hand while doing so?
Had a WV WCO do that! They act like they are glad to see you down there. Never get that feeling here in PA!
My buddies and I were shocked when they did that. Wasn't what we were use to. Use to being treated like a criminal here in PA.
Very friendly in WV!
I hunted in WV for 16 years. Very proffessional down there.
Always polite and interested in how your day is going andoffer advice/
When was the last time a PA WCO walked up to you and introduced himself and shook you and your buddies' hand while doing so?
Had a WV WCO do that! They act like they are glad to see you down there. Never get that feeling here in PA!
My buddies and I were shocked when they did that. Wasn't what we were use to. Use to being treated like a criminal here in PA.
Very friendly in WV!
02-01-2010, 06:42 PM
#53
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location:
Posts: 2,621
I will openly admit that not all WCOs are the same. It could very well be, that you aren't like that. But there are some really bad apples out there.
I will also admit that I have met a couple WCOs that were very friendly. Met one in western Greene Co. about 5 years ago. One heck of a nice guy. My father and I chatted with him for about 20 min. Unfortunately I don't recall his name. Very professional!
I have to say though, most of my experiences have not been good with the PGC. Seems like just about everyone has had a bad experience with at least one.
I will also admit that I have met a couple WCOs that were very friendly. Met one in western Greene Co. about 5 years ago. One heck of a nice guy. My father and I chatted with him for about 20 min. Unfortunately I don't recall his name. Very professional!
I have to say though, most of my experiences have not been good with the PGC. Seems like just about everyone has had a bad experience with at least one.
02-02-2010, 03:31 AM
#54
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Ohio,mid
Posts: 1,275
I will openly admit that not all WCOs are the same. It could very well be, that you aren't like that. But there are some really bad apples out there.
I have to say though, most of my experiences have not been good with the PGC. Seems like just about everyone has had a bad experience with at least one.
I have to say though, most of my experiences have not been good with the PGC. Seems like just about everyone has had a bad experience with at least one.
I only know our WCO by his reputation and name. Have been stopped, never introduced themselves other than a title always asked for the license check and gun check "go ahead you can move on"!.
02-02-2010, 03:38 AM
#55
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Upstate New York
Posts: 2,435
Now are there good officers out there? Absolutely there are, (at least as far as doing their jobs is concerned) but IMHO they often have a serious flaw. If they are not partictipants in the afore mentioned corruption they sheepishly turn their heads when they see it taking place. Until this all but stops, declining public opinion will not turn around. When they once again understand they are sworn to protect and serve the public, not their fellow officers, respect will grow.
02-02-2010, 06:13 AM
#56
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,262
Not only are they out there, but they are protected by the majority and that taints the entire organization. Like I've said before, the "blue wall" is very real. The corrupt practice of "professional courtesy" is ubiquitous and sends the message to each and every officer that they are above the law. Respect for the word of law enforcement has degraded to the point that jurors often hold the veracity of an LEO's testimony with at least as much suspicion as that of a common criminal. That's sad and makes me draw comparisons with Mexico's corrupt agencies. Again, unless and until there is widespread reform their well earned reputation will continue to decline.
Now are there good officers out there? Absolutely there are, (at least as far as doing their jobs is concerned) but IMHO they often have a serious flaw. If they are not partictipants in the afore mentioned corruption they sheepishly turn their heads when they see it taking place. Until this all but stops, declining public opinion will not turn around. When they once again understand they are sworn to protect and serve the public, not their fellow officers, respect will grow.
Now are there good officers out there? Absolutely there are, (at least as far as doing their jobs is concerned) but IMHO they often have a serious flaw. If they are not partictipants in the afore mentioned corruption they sheepishly turn their heads when they see it taking place. Until this all but stops, declining public opinion will not turn around. When they once again understand they are sworn to protect and serve the public, not their fellow officers, respect will grow.
02-03-2010, 05:45 AM
#58
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 175
Sproul,if ignorance was money,you'd be rich.I'm normally thick skinned about heritage references,but being of Italian decent ,I am offended by that story and any association you infer with being Italian and committing such acts !
02-03-2010, 07:18 AM
#59
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 171
I have yet to meeet a DWCO whom could get off their ego trip long enough to have common sense.
One of the biggest poachers in Sullivan County (the area I lived in for some years back in the 70s and early 80s) was the local DGW at the time. His family had a couple small farms in the area and everyone of the locals not connected to the family laughed how ironic it was that he became a DGW...sure didn't slow his kin folk down on poaching any...or him.
One of the biggest poachers in Sullivan County (the area I lived in for some years back in the 70s and early 80s) was the local DGW at the time. His family had a couple small farms in the area and everyone of the locals not connected to the family laughed how ironic it was that he became a DGW...sure didn't slow his kin folk down on poaching any...or him.
02-03-2010, 10:28 AM
#60
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Washington County
Posts: 143
I have yet to meeet a DWCO whom could get off their ego trip long enough to have common sense.
One of the biggest poachers in Sullivan County (the area I lived in for some years back in the 70s and early 80s) was the local DGW at the time. His family had a couple small farms in the area and everyone of the locals not connected to the family laughed how ironic it was that he became a DGW...sure didn't slow his kin folk down on poaching any...or him.
One of the biggest poachers in Sullivan County (the area I lived in for some years back in the 70s and early 80s) was the local DGW at the time. His family had a couple small farms in the area and everyone of the locals not connected to the family laughed how ironic it was that he became a DGW...sure didn't slow his kin folk down on poaching any...or him.
So why didnt anyone talk to his Supervisors the WCO or the Regional Director.