Uh actually he killed three, but hey, accuracy never was all that important to you. There's more. they're easy enough to find but you can look for yourself. I'm not your personal secretary. I suggest you drop it before you embarrass yourself.

And you have no clue where he harvested those deer and what the DD was in that area. You defend Doug for harvesting 4 or 5 doe bur attack WW for harvesting a buck and two antlerless. Make up your mind!!

Maybe if you took the time to actually read it before launching a tirade your response would be different. Or are you just looking for a 10 page flame war? You could at least look at it before you go on the attack couldnt you? Isn't that what people who arent extremists do?

please dont twist up the reason I quoted that. You accused me of "making it up" when I noted the some critics of the DMP reported harvesting multiple deer. I'm not criticizing WW at all. As a matter of fact, I congratulate him. His post, however, was an example of some on here who complain about a lack of deer but seem to be experiencing good success in their hunting and that's even by your standards for "success"

RSB is still spouting pure nonsense. DCNR has stated quite clearly that any increase in the herd will wipe out any improvement in the habitat.

Before you launched into your fit, you shouldve answered the question. The man has made THOUSANDS of posts.

Basing that assertion on absolutely nothing, or just hoping? Sorry pal. Like I tell you continually, Not interested. Keep it to the topic and let the mods. do the moderating. You have a problem, contact them. Thats all i can tell you.

I didnt "go on attack". The mans views are on deer management/hunters is extreme to say the least, and I gave instances as proof. Its nothing personal. He might be the greatest guy in the world, and i know for a fact hes a fine law enforcement officer. But are you gonna tell me that most wouldnt see those statements/positions as "extreme"? If thats your opinion, i beg to differ.

No. They say things like we hunters should take a flying leap, and that we should be wormed like dogs. At least thats my opinion.

Like I said, why get so worked up and start attacking something you havent even read? I simply asked Sproul if he'd seen it. Your response was to attack something you admittedly didnt even see. Why even comment on it if you havent read it?

Having a blanket deer plan in place is extreme.

Holding the herd so far below cc and continuing to decline is extreme.

Expecting us to hold it at rock bottom numbers for decades so that we can have audubons idea of paradise, one which exists nowhere else in the eastern united states is extreme.

Ignoring hunters to the extent pgc has is extreme.

The ecoextreme goals of unnatural levels of biodiversity arent extreme, they are nuts. lol

Begging for more cash, and looking to alternate sources all the while being one of the best if not thee best funded agency in the nation ALREADY is extreme.

Having wind biologists is extreme.

50 year low buck harvests are extreme.

Need I say more?...Because Im sure I could add plenty more.

Not worked up. Stating facts you apparently may not like doesnt exactly = "worked up". Youre purposely drawing correlations where none exist.

How do you know I havent read "it" if you havent said what exactly "it" is....in fact i asked you a couple posts ago, and instead of answer you chose to give a psychiatric evaluation of my post. But that aside, odds are, Ive read "it", as ive read many of his postings the last couple of days including earlier today, and i havent seen a whole lot out of the ordinary compared to his usual.

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!


I will state for the record, there is a lack of deer.

Just because I killed 3 doesn't mean there isn't a lack of deer.

When I hunt, I hunt hard. I leave the vehicle before first light and don't come back till dark. I spend the entire day in the woods unless I have an appointment to be somewhere.

I'd like to think that after hunting for over 30 yeras I learn a little about how to put a deer on the ground.

I've hunted several days from dawn til dusk without seeing a deer. Hunted a week and a half without seeing a doe.

And to clue you in, I'm laid off and had more time to hunt this year than anytime in the past. Think that had anything to do with it?

I hunt in 2A. One farm in Greene Co. I had to myself all of archery season and only shared with one other guy during rifle season. I'm hunting der that have absolutely no pressure and still having trouble.

This property had been open to the public in years past. The land owner himself decided to post his land because he said there weren't many deer. He let me and the other guy hunt.

I hunt one side of the road and the other guy hunts the other side. Again, no pressure!

There is a big deline in the deer population. Some of it brought about by EHD a couple years ago but much of it hunting too. This land was formerly in a co op type program with the PGC. When the PGC came out to his place a couple years ago he sorta got in an arguement with them over the EHD. He ask if they were going to shorten the season or anything because of all of the dead deer laying around. They said, "No!" He then said he would have to take matters into his own hands to prevent the deer being wiped out. He posted his land! He doesn't hunt but likes deer meat. I usually give him one, thus the reason I get permission.

My bow kill was on another piece of property in western Fayette Co. Private ground also. Limited hunting pressure.


I use to spend alot of time hunting in and around Ryerson State Park in Western Greene Co. I've killed lots of deer there.

Go there today and I don't even find deer sign. I use to hunt around some white oaks. Went there this year and there were white oak acorns all over the ground with no sign of deer eating them. And yes I know the difference between red and white oak.

It was wierd seeing all those acorns and no deer. Most of the trails were all grown in with no tracks.

Areas that always held bucks lacked any rubs.

Yes, there are still deer there but it is getting worse every year.