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Pawildman 12-06-2009 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by bawanajim (Post 3521046)
It was real quite in 1B yesterday, very little shooting, even the doe slayers were finding the going tough.
I'm thinking we might have reached the point of stable deer numbers, I say that because we don't have enough hunters that are willing to kill what doe remain.
You would never believe it was the first Saturday of the firearms season.:s8:


It was my experience here in 2D that Sat. was equal to, or quite possibly better than the first day. I realize that doe were permitted to be taken on Sat. here for the first this season, but when I ran my deer to the butcher's, there were more bucks there than I would have imagined. I realize the morning snow was of some help, but all in all I was kind of surprised at how many nice-sized bucks were there. The hunters were spotty....some places showed no sign of being hunted, while other places must have had standing room only. Guess word of mouth ...... I'd been seeing deer regularly all the past week, just couldn't put big enough horns on them. Plenty of doe here, too. You don't exactly have to kick them out of your way to get into the woods, but enough moving to keep your interest up. Will be back out again this coming week..............

pats102862 12-06-2009 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by bluebird2 (Post 3521107)
But who was responsible for making that legal? The PGC ,of course.


141.41 genral hunting regs. It is unlawfull to harvest more than one deer at a time before lawfuly tagging a deer previously harvasted when multiple harvest of deer per day are authorized. Except as otherwise provided in 141.1 {special reg areas}. So except in special areas, popping multiple deer at one time is unlawful.

blkpowder 12-06-2009 08:12 AM


pats102862 First he shot at a deer in a safty zone, crippled it , it ran and lied down. He spotted more deer and started shooting not realizing there were houses in that direction. After he realized what he did he did he wanted to get out of there but the land owner hollered he had a wounded deer in here. Then he came for the deer with out his rifle and the deer took off. he never recovered the deer.
Lot's of greed in those deer woods!


pats102862 If this fine Pa. hunter never kills another deer in his life I would be happy. If that makes me selfish and self centered than so be it.
That's what I always wish on the deer slobs. Guess I'm selfish and self centered too!

blkpowder 12-06-2009 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by bluebird2 (Post 3521107)
But who was responsible for making that legal? The PGC ,of course. They were willing to do almost anything to get as many doe killed as possible as soon as possible. Now, in many areas its hard to find one adult doe!!

IT'S NOT LEGAL! Lot's of greed in the deer woods!

bluebird2 12-06-2009 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by pats102862 (Post 3521176)
141.41 genral hunting regs. It is unlawfull to harvest more than one deer at a time before lawfuly tagging a deer previously harvasted when multiple harvest of deer per day are authorized. Except as otherwise provided in 141.1 {special reg areas}. So except in special areas, popping multiple deer at one time is unlawful.

But you included this in your post.

People with multiple tags popping multiple deer at one time, instead of harvesting one deer, field dressing and removing it.
The regs say nothing about field dressing and removing them, they just have to be tagged.

Maverick 1 12-06-2009 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by blkpowder (Post 3521190)
That's what I always wish on the deer slobs. Guess I'm selfish and self centered too!

I don't know if you are selfish and self centered or not but, you are NOT coming across in a positive manner right now. In fact your coming across a bit repulsive. It's not so much what you say. It's all in your attitude.

pats102862 12-06-2009 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by bluebird2 (Post 3521214)
But you included this in your post.


The regs say nothing about field dressing and removing them, they just have to be tagged.

It doesn't matter what I have in my post. shooting multiple deer at a time is illegal. You have to kill one, lawfully tag it then go after the others if they are still there. If not the hunt is on again. Big difference from laying out three deer then tagging them.

sproulman 12-06-2009 08:51 AM

i saw friends carrying rifle even tho they got their buck already in crews.everyone is carrying radio now.you shoot at ANY buck,call on radio and have kids tag put on it if NEEDED or you have one in your pocket for back-up..IT may be a buck with 3 points.so kid tags are not needed at times.

thing is most of this is being done by CREWS driving.they have big advantage over us that go by rules and still hunt. i was member of biggest and oldest crews in my area so i guess i know a little of what is happeningthey see HORNS and just shoot because BUCK IS RUNNING.they dont have to worry about if it had 3 points.most tell me THEY DONT LOOK FOR 3 POINTS.

this is why i say it should be 3 point rule after your first year hunting.at least that would slow down what is happening as it could not be done from age 12/16.thats 5 years that this can done with just 1 kid tag.along comes more and add on another 5 years.
i agree, i wish hunters would go by rules and let a kid shoot their own buck but that is asking too much from most that i know that hunt hard in crews and dont want to lose a buck for counting points.
i got surprise for us, MOST if not all are pillars of your community.these are not SLOBS that are doing it they are your neighbor and possibly your best friends or well respected in your town or leaders in sportsmans clubs or other organizations.

i like the AR but until this way of getting around rule is looked at i feel that most that go by rules will be losers.......

pats102862 12-06-2009 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by sproulman (Post 3521222)
i saw friends carrying rifle even tho they got their buck already in crews.everyone is carrying radio now.you shoot at ANY buck,call on radio and have kids tag put on it if NEEDED or you have one in your pocket for back-up..IT may be a buck with 3 points.so kid tags are not needed at times.

thing is most of this is being done by CREWS driving.they have big advantage over us that go by rules and still hunt. i was member of biggest and oldest crews in my area so i guess i know a little of what is happeningthey see HORNS and just shoot because BUCK IS RUNNING.they dont have to worry about if it had 3 points.most tell me THEY DONT LOOK FOR 3 POINTS.

this is why i say it should be 3 point rule after your first year hunting.at least that would slow down what is happening as it could not be done from age 12/16.thats 5 years that this can done with just 1 kid tag.along comes more and add on another 5 years.
i agree, i wish hunters would go by rules and let a kid shoot their own buck but that is asking too much from most that i know that hunt hard in crews and dont want to lose a buck for counting points.
i got surprise for us, MOST if not all are pillars of your community.these are not SLOBS that are doing it they are your neighbor and possibly your best friends or well respected in your town or leaders in sportsmans clubs or other organizations.

i like the AR but until this way of getting around rule is looked at i feel that most that go by rules will be losers.......

People want to blame the game commission for all the problems when sometimes all we need to do is look in the mirror and see part of the problem.

bluebird2 12-06-2009 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by pats102862 (Post 3521221)
It doesn't matter what I have in my post. shooting multiple deer at a time is illegal. You have to kill one, lawfully tag it then go after the others if they are still there. If not the hunt is on again. Big difference from laying out three deer then tagging them.

It most certainly does matter. If a hunter had to clean it and remove it he would be less likely to drop a second deer without tagging the first. But, since a hunter only has to tag the deer it would almost be impossible for a WCO to catch this violation unless he watched the hunter fire the shots.


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