A modern day crossbow is not the crossbow used by the Chinese nearly a thousand years ago. A bow is older than the crossbow. A modern compound is just as much a long bow as a modern crossbow is one of the old wooden ones. Once again you are wrong even about the history of the two weapons. Furthermore an Xbow's earliest purpose to the best history can reveal was intended for warfare first and foremost, the bow was used primarily as a hunting weapon. Before you start espousing further misinformation about the 2.
Would you like to continue with new post containing fictional information or do you want to go back to playing the same broken record, you haven't said anything new that is factual.

What the heck does that mean? And I can't beleibve I am answering you with your last post up for all to see. I'm going hunting in Ohio this weekend. I will be in PA for the first day of the new Xbow season in October. I will probably take the rut week to hunt Xbow as well. In addition I will probably get to hunt Saturdays in PA then Ohio on Sundays.all w/ my Xbow. I will be hunting all season w/ my Xbow. My 1000 year old weapon of choice that was legalized for Xbow hunting this year, telescopic sites the whole works. You hang in there 4everthn! Unbeleivable...........

BH1, Lanse, Boilermaker


None of you has answered this question in spite of the fact that it's been asked multiple times.

With 900,000 hunters, PA has always taken a cautious slow and steady approach to the introduction of any new weapons and seasons. Muzzleloader season was first restricted to three days on selected state game lands. Archery season was first instituted during the regular gun season on two specific designated areas only. Most recently, archery bear season was put in as a three day, mid week deal.

I'll ask all of you again..... what would have been wrong with a slow and cautious aproach to the crossbow?

I'll say why should I ? At this juncture it is a moot point, the Xbow is an arching weapon included in this years game plan. Discussion and name calling is moot point, inclusion was voted on by BOC by a majority of commisioners voting!

Still waiting.

I'm going to give you my answer (opinion) to your question of slow and cautious,,,which is,,,,,
Pa. has been slow and cautious with their inclusion of the x-bow because every other state that is going to allow em has done it years ago! I remember back in "05" when Va. started allowing them for the regular season hunting dates that i was positive that Pa. was going to include them that same year,,with all the hipe about HR and too many deer,,,,What they should have done was include them back then!,, before the deer were shot to oblivien and every hunter in the woods was still seeing deer,,,then and only then would there have been a gradual acceptence,,,doing it now is the wrong time because hunters in Pa. are now finally realizing that it's time to pay the piper for shooting too many friggin deer! The guns didnt kill the deer,,,the bows didnt kill the deer,,,the muzzle loaders didnt kill the deer and i damn sure that the x-bows wont go down in history for killin the deer,,,but the hunters who carried them weapons might go down in the history of all our memories as "THE KILLERS OF DEER"

What that means is you are trying to make the modern crossbow appear to be the same thing as the medieval crossbow. Furthermore crossbows and every other type of vertical bow are two completely different types of weapons.
You have hit on another point-telescopic/ magnified scopes. I thought the BOC made the inclusion of the xbow without a magnified power scope. Has this changed? And I ask again since you made these claims of a "New Heritage". Than with that line of thinking we should be able to use bait, dogs,etc. to make things even easier. If these things were implemented would you consider them to be heritage as well? Why or why not? At what point do things become too easy? Where do you draw the line?

Hey, since they are legalizing xbows in the archery season this year what about assault rifle owners like me?


I'd like to start a "New Heritage" deer hunting with my AK.

While we are at it, we can legalize baiting like WV, Maryland and Ohio do. Hunters from those states say it doesn't have an impact, so why can't PA do it?

Heck, maybe they'll Start letting hunters go out with spot lights while we are on the "New Heritage" kick.

WV and Maryland allow mutiple bucks per year. I'm thinking PA can do the same. According to the nonresidents, it hasn't hurt their deer hunting.

Maybe the PA nonresidents know something us PA hunters don't?
They say xbows didn't make a big dent in their deer kills.

Virginia 2008-2009 Deer Kill Summary

During the past deer season 253,678 deer were reported killed by hunters in Virginia. This total included 111,863 antlered bucks, 22,291 button bucks, and 119,524 does (47.3%). This represents a 4% increase from the 242,792 deer reported killed last year. It is also 16% higher than the last 10 year average of 212,780. Across the state, deer kill levels were up in all regions including in the Northern Mountains (2%), Northern Piedmont (3%), Southern Mountains (1%), Southern Piedmont (4%), and Tidewater (8%).
Archers, not including crossbow hunters, killed 17,881 deer. The bow kill comprised 7% of the total deer kill.
Crossbows resulted in a deer kill of 9,597 deer or 4% of the total deer kill.

Windwalker:
Theres a few #'s for ya from last year,,,most importantly,,,the last sentence,,,im not trying to prove anything to you or anyone else,,,like i've said before,,,im not a x-bow user,,,but i see nothing anywhere that makes me believe that x-bows are the end all to your traditional hunting opportunities.

You should be allowed to hunt with your AK as far as im concerned,,as a matter of fact if i can find one that will shoot the way i demand a rifle to shoot,,,,im gonna buy it and next year i will be burnin up some doe tags with it here in Va.

Quote; Mike Tonkovich,chief deer biologist for the state of Ohio. Ohio legalized crossbows on a limited basis in 1976 and statewide for all archery seasons in 1982. The crossbow deer kill first exceeded the vertical bow kill in 1989 and has remained higher every year since.