ARs select the bucks that are legal to be harvested based on one genetic trait and that is the rate of antler development. Therefore, the bucks with the best genes for the rate of antler development are legal and are harvested leaving bucks with inferior genes for the rate of antler development to survive and become dominant breeders.

That quote is from the NY DEC report and directly contradicts what Alt and RSB claimed was the reason for implementing ARs in PA. When ARs were implemented in PA our B/D ratio was 1:2.1 .so there was no biological need for ARs in PA.

"let the NY hunters have one thread to debate amongst themselves?"

And you havent posted in any of the PENNSYLVANIA threads...??

"You obviously can neither fix or agree on what Pa needs/doesn't need/wants or has done -"

Not our (the hunters) fault. Its up to management to fix. We are doing our part as much as we can. They arent doing theirs.

" how can you possibly hope to offer anything of value to NYer's?"

Its called experience...Ar....Hr...Pa has been there, done that. Id say if nothing else we've learned more than a little in the process. Pennsylvania is one of few states who has that experience.

And after 10,000 posts none can agree on anything.
Yeh - I want to see that "experiance" brought to NY.

I have a few posts in the the Pa threads - they dominate the NE like a broken record.
But most are to poke fun of the same ole stuff day after day after day. Maybe 10 to 15 of you (less if you count multiple screen names) - most with incomplete profiles, with 1000's of the same name calling BS - and I've yet to see anyone change their mind or even admit another's point might be valid.

So keep your "experiance" and let us blindly try to figure it out on our own.
We can't screw it up any more then some of you think your state has.

Steve

Did you read the report from the NY DEC?

How is NON ar natural selection if AR, in your words,is the exact opposite of natural selection. I'm waiting on the edge of my seat with bated breath.

Nysteve, Ive posted on New York threads once or twice EVER. Youve made a nuissance of yourself in the Pa threads more than often enough. I had intended to give my opinion from experience here, and make that the only post, until you chose to run your mouth.

I also dont care what you think of Pennsylvanians or dont care who uses "multiple id's", if you suspect someone is, take it up with administration. Only one I know of definately doing so has not posted to this thread. And we posters have no control over the actions of other posters and the actions of one or two shouldnt be blamed among the rest.

Unlike you in the Pa threads, I am posting constructively on this topic (or at least was until you began flapping your gums about noone from Pa being allowed to post this thread! lmao) so......Shut yer pie-hole.

A non-AR harvest is a random harvest of all bucks with one antler 3" or longer. It does not favor the harvest of bigger buck or protect inferior buck.

Corne the nyers have been seeing pa threads on this topic for years now.
You think you got new insight for them now? I think we have said enough
in the pa threads IMHO

What makes you think everyone reads all of the Pa threads? I dont read most of the NY threads. Only reason I read this one is because it had something in common with us in the title.

Now if anyone else would like to add who should or shouldnt be allowed to make a post on differing threads, please start your own. I think this one has been hijacked enough dont you?